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Another thing to add to the Montreal games is that they were the first games after the 72 games and the Munich massacre. After that happened, no one thought there would be another Olympic Games because of security. The Montreal Games had heightened security cost too. Also, don't forget it was only 7 years removed from the October Crisis and the security tension that created. Most of the construction site was managed by the City of Montreal, which was a very large mistake to begin with. Even now, if you look at the Quartier Des Spectacle, we see the same thing. Henry Aubin of the Gazette pointed out that projects (buildings such as the 2-22 and a couple others) under the control of the city have stalled, whereas the ones under provincial stewardship are well underway in construction (the concert hall and the PDA Foyer). The lesson: At least things get built when the Quebec government is cracking the whip. The city has a track record of fumbling large developments. Not that the Qc Government is amazing, but their batting average compared to the city speaks for itself. Vancouver's a beautiful place. Downtown Vancouver is a residential neighborhood. More residential than commercial in my opinion. It's the most expensive city in Canada to live in. People who are being priced out are forced to move to less expensive cities like Toronto, Calgary or Ottawa. When I was there, I started up a conversation with a guy on the Seabus between downtown and North Vancouver - he told me to live if you're single, to live in Vancouver and afford it, you must make a salary of $75,000 a year. Many economists have warned that Vancouver is coming very close to the overpriced mark. The beauty of Toronto is that it's a sprawling city where cheap rent can be found. This is perfect for new immigrants to Canada. The average rent in Toronto is $1000/mo, but if you want something cheaper you can find it. Vancouver has such a dense area, and prices are rising so high, that you have to be making a lot of money to afford Van City.
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Blũ Rivage (Longueuil) - 26 étages (2010)
Maisonneuve a répondu à un sujet de booboohome2003 dans Complétés
Longueuil has always been one step ahead of the game compared to every other suburb in the metropolis. They started to implement transit oriented design 20 years ago, while Brossard and Laval looked on. Longueuil's Metro/RTL Terminus is the largest bus hub in Canada. There's nothing in Toronto or Vancouver that even comes close to it. It's like a small airport, all for the RTL. The RTL's Brossard-Panama terminus should have some TOD. There is a Loblaws not too far from there next to Highway10 that was built over a decade ago under the condition that they (Loblaws) developed the land between the store and the highway. The only thing that happens is that the Terminus keeps buying up the land for a parking lot. The vacant lot next to the Loblaws is enough land to build a whole complex of condo towers of various heights. In Brossard, I'm not sure what the height limit it, but 15 storeys might be the maximum, but they should go higher. Those condos would sell. Amenities: Next to RTL Terminus with a 12 minute bus ride on line#45 to 1000 La Gauchetiere. Next to Loblaws. Also next to a small strip mall with contains a Le Scratch. Across the street from the Champlain Mall. Three minutes driving away from Dix30. Next to Brossard bikepath system. Easy access to Boul.Tachereau. Easy access to highway 10 going east and the Champlain Bridge. -
Hilton Garden Inn (400 Sherbrooke Ouest) - 37 étages - 63 M$ (2009)
Maisonneuve a répondu à un sujet de mtlurb dans Complétés
This building went up almost by surprise. It just shot up in the air. It's interesting how the recession separated the developer with good access to capital and the pretenders. The ones with good access to capital, managed to finish their projects or are in the process of finishing, though not yet at the Substantial Completion stage. The pretenders either had to scale down or cancel their projects. -
This project has been studied extensively by architecture students doing their masters at McGill or UdeM. It would be interesting to see what the students have come up with all these years. It would be great to have a festival of architecture where student visions for the city could be on display. Architects from across the city, and around the world could be invited to design mobile architecture or pavilions around the city which would stay in place for 1 month. Works of architecture that engage with the public realm in someway. The winning design (voted by the public) would form a permanent part of the urban landscape.
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TGV - Liaison Montréal - New-York
Maisonneuve a répondu à un sujet de mtl_yul dans Projets oubliés et/ou en suspens
When Obama released his original plan for this he had a line going from New York to Boston and then to Montreal. It wasn't New York to Montreal directly, even though that's line would be much heavily traveled. -
Yes, I figured it would have been an issue. More proof that Canada is only a bilingual country in theory. Read "Sorry I Don't Speak French" by Graham Fraser. Contrary to what most people think, Montreal is more bilingual than Ottawa. What is the Francophone equivalent to The Gazette in Ottawa - there is no French newspaper on the level of the Gazette in Ottawa. How many French hospitals does Ottawa have? ONE, Monfort Hospital, which is the only French hospital in all of Ontario. Sucks for the 50,000 Francophones who live in Toronto. How many people working at stores like the Bay in Ottawa speak French? Not nearly as much as The Bay on Ste.Catherine Street.
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http://www.sixty7architectureroad.com/cityscapes/downtown-toronto/ http://www.sixty7architectureroad.com/cityscapes/coal-harbour-vancouver/ http://www.sixty7architectureroad.com/cityscapes/downtown-calgary/
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STM : Station de métro Champ-de-Mars
Maisonneuve a répondu à un sujet de jesseps dans Projets oubliés et/ou en suspens
When Tremblay is finished as mayor in Montreal (maybe in 4 years if not re-elected) someone should write a book about him. People can reproach Tremblay for a lot of things, but I can't remember a Montreal mayor that has seen so many projects in production and completed on his watch, since Jean Drapeau. Bixi - so effective that the trial program had to go into full implementation before the trial period ended. It's so effective that Bixi now has contracts with Boston, London, Toronto is getting it next summer and New York is keen on it too. Still doubt Montreal's a creative cultural centre? Place des Spectacles - a space with a lot of potential. Can't wait until it's finished and when the Louis Boheme is up. De Maisonneuve Blvd - MOST PEOPLE FORGET THIS ONE! Has it occurred to anyone that De Maisonneuve Blvd in downtown Montreal is the best street downtown? Just 7 years ago that street was a dump, with street lights that worked when they felt like it and there was this hideous Winnipeg-like pedestrian bridge going from one disgusting industrial building to another. Now there's luxury condos, boutique restaurants, fancy LED streetlights, Bixi stations (that look so sleek). Quartier International - Not enough Montrealers respect the urban aesthetics of that place. Elevators in metro stations - It's about time. Can't wait until there all in place. New seating configuration in metro cars - This seems like a small thing, but minor changes can sometimes have major appeal. The electronic displays and screens in the metro stations - especially the large screens with the projectors at Berri-UQAM and McGill. They don't even have anything that in Toronto or even in New York. Buildings erected in the city centre (1) Le Crystal (2)Concordia EV-Building (3)John Molson School of Business (4) Tours Lepine (4) Westin Montreal (5) Hilton Garden Inn (6) Le Roc Fleuri (7) Tour Québécor (8) Pierre Dansereau complex I'm sure there's other buildings I'm missing on this list. Reconfiguration of Pine Intersection - something is missing there though. Like a statue or some other major art installation. Tremblay's done alright as mayor. He's not great,but at least his tenure has seen more progress than his predecessors. The rest of his ideas for progressing the urban fabric of Montreal have piqued my interest in the city. Champ-de-Mars and Place du Canada redesigning, the trams, Quartier des Spectacle, Quartier Concordia. Not bad for a man, who according to Macleans, could get whacked Tony Soprano style anyday now...since Tremblay is his own number two, in the event that he gets whacked who becomes the mayor then? Bergeron? -
Because the Kazakhstan-based developer, Bazis International, has defaulted on its loan to build on the land and the bank in Kazakhstan which was backing the project is being investigated for racketeering fake loans and money laundering. A court decision in Toronto decided to force the Canadian who heads the project for Bazis International to sell to other developers. How people will get back their money is a question, since it's tied up in the other investigation of that bank in Kazakhstan. Most speculate another condo will be built there, but for the next few years the southeast corner of one of Canada's famous intersections will be an empty lot.
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I remember when there use to be rumours of the Expos moving I use to wonder what would happen? There'd be a void, what would fill it? But I was underestimating Montreal. Sports is one of many things that captures peoples attention in a city. Here in Toronto, there's an MLB team, but sometimes it's hard to tell. People have other entertainment options. Since the Expos left I felt it was the right thing to let the team move. Honestly, Montreal didn't have the money to compete with the rest of the league. They couldn't generate the TV dollars even the mid-size markets pulled in. Then there's the people who blame the Quebec private sector and the various levels of government for not stepping up to save the team. Why would they want to pour money into something that had no future? This season's Halladay soap opera with the Blue Jays is even more proof that the Expos should have moved. Toronto's the 4th largest market in North America, yet the Blue Jays can't compete with the Yankees or Red Sox. They stretched their payroll to $80 million, which was a big deal here in Toronto, and they still can't compete. A couple seasons ago the Blue Jays spent $100 million, and yet they couldn't compete. And the Blue Jays have everything the Expos dreamed about - a downtown stadium with a retractable roof, local ownership with a lot of money, two Championships before the "money ball" era and a decent TV deal - none of it is enough. That's why the Jays have the 4 lowest attendance in MLB, because fans have figured out its a lost cause. Rogers has seen the light, and are planning to cut payroll and trade their good players for prospects (sound familiar?). So next season the Blue Jays are going to compete with a payroll that probably couldn't even win them the NL East and rumour has it Rogers wants to sell the team. The Blue Jays only hope is that some massive American corporation buys them and decides to spend Yankee-type money for them to compete and keep them in a big market like Toronto instead of moving them to Memphis or Portland. Just seeing what's happened to the Blue Jays in North America's 4th largest market, proves the Expos never had chance. So all you people hoping for a return of MLB to Montreal and continuing to lament that the private sector, governments and the fans didn't support the team, keep the Blue Jays had and experienced everything you dreamed about and look at them now - trading star players for prospects and incapable of competing. Salary cap?! Ask the Florida Panthers and the Phoenix Coyotes and about 8 other NHL teams how the salary cap has made them competitive.
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Montreal doesn't have the population increase to warrant such construction of high-rise condos. Toronto, Vancouver, even Calgary to a lesser extent, have seen more condo development. Most of downtown Vancouver looks like it's been built in the last 20 years. Mostly condos. This is true, but the failure of the Yonge-Bloor 80-storey project became a symbol of greed in this condo market. It was promoted as the tallest residential tower in Canada, at Canada's most posh intersection, etc...I liked that building, but the whole promotion of it was filled with such hubris. People stood in line for weeks just to buy a unit (mostly just to flip). I remember in 2007 buyers stood in line for days, even weeks before the grand opening. Some realtors paid people to stand in line. When the office opened for buying, people started physically fighting in line, such was the vigour to get a chance to buy a condo at the "centre of Canada" where Yonge meets Bloor. When the developer saw the fighting, he immediately raised the prices of the units, selling the most expensive for as high as $8 million. Some rich guy from Hong Kong paid $25 million just for the penthouse. Now, the project is dead and hundreds of greedy dreamers are out thousands of dollars, if not millions. Most people want to see a public square there, like Yonge-Dundas Square without all the ads, but most likely it will be another banal glass box of at least 30 storeys. So much for Canada's most posh intersection. Last time I was in mtl I went to the Louis Boheme presentation room because it looked pretty unique. The building won't be spectacular, but you can tell that the developer isn't just trying to make money of banality, but is actually trying to construct a building with a character and specific design philosophy. In T.O., of the hundreds of new condo developments, only a hand full offer any sort of distinctiveness, other than some corny theme name like Ice,/Emerald/South Beach/Giraffe and contorted facades. Here are the best highrises condos in Toronto by far: College Park Condos http://www.bustler.net/images/uploads/5th_pug_awards_05.jpg One St. Thomas Residences http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ZC_3G3uffII/R9MirmKaFxI/AAAAAAAAA6k/SW1pg54qdHM/One+St.+Thomas+Residences6.JPG As you can see, these condos are very Montrealesque. Their the type of high-rises I imagine you building in Montreal if you had the population influx and the money. In fact, the developers of College Park Condos are from mtl. One St. Thomas Residences was designed by Robert Stern, a very reputable NYC architect.
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I was impressed with Place Des Spectacle, the last time I was in Montreal. The enormous other-worldy street lights give the space a unique look. Quartier des Spectacles looks like it's shaping up quite nicely. I still can't believe Montreal is in the process of building a whole entertainment district, almost from scratch - since that use to be a seedy area with just Place Des Arts. Congrats!
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What sucks is that the tallest building in that image isn't happening anymore. The developer did business with a shady Kazakhstan bank now under investigation. http://www.thestar.com/article/669840
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I was there last week. I'm really impressed with how de maisonneuve is starting to look. Sometimes in Montreal things just stay the same for decades, but sometimes things change fast. Prior to 2002, 5 or 6 of the buildings in the last photo weren't even built or renovated yet. And who could forget that horrible elevated bridge that was just west of where the twin condo towers are. Now with the new lamps, the bike path, new businesses, new residents, de maisonneuve to me is the new cool street in Montreal and the best is yet to come. Once Quartier Concordia is finished and the Quartiers des Spectacles square is done, de maisonneuve will have renewed life. I noticed something bitter sweet in Montreal last week. There still is a lack of private investment in terms of building office towers in condos. Private investment builds those, not governments. But I noticed a lot of the public squares are being renovated, or planned for renovation and some created from scratch. Public squares uplift the quality of life in a city. I remember once summer weekday afternoon I was walking through Quartier Internationale square (I forgot the name, but the square facing the W hotel) and a lot of workers from the various offices were sitting around eating lunch, chatting, chilling and I thought this is what a city needs. A square, with no advertising, where you can just exist. Just be.
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Lien ferroviaire Centre ville - P.E.T. 500++ M$
Maisonneuve a répondu à un sujet de mtlurb dans Projets oubliés et/ou en suspens
I know what you mean internationaux, I was in New York last month and I went to pick up some relatives at JFK coming from Barbados and that airport is really convoluted. It's so big it has it's on autoroute that takes you from one terminal to another (there are 9 terminals). Plus they have a skytrain which takes travelers between terminals. Coming back to Toronto, I flew out of LGA, and that airport was much less confusing. Sort of like a larger, less organized, but busier version of PET. -
Don't forget, Montreal also has the Canadian Centre for Architecture, which is the only one of it's kind in Canada. One of a few in North America as well.
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Je ne pense pas qu'une équipe de NBA marcherait à Montréal maintenant, mais peut-être dans environ 10, 15 ans. Quelqu'un a dit avant que les immigrants sont les plus intéressé et cela est vrai. Je sais que ici à Toronto que c'est le cas. Les Raptors ont leurs billets reliés aux Leafs, alors quand quelqu'un achète des billets de saisons des Leafs, ils doivent aussi achêter quelques billets de Raptors. Je suppose que le Centre Bell pourrait faire la même chose avec le Canadien et un équipe de NBA. Mais même avec les billets reliés, les Raptors jouent devant 17,000, mais le ACC est remplie pour les Leafs. Pour cette raison, Montréal n'est pas un bon lieu pour NBA - maintenant ....Et plus, les téléspectateurs pour le basketball de Raptors à travers du Canada sont une moyenne de 150,000, donc 100,000 de dans la région de Toronto. Cela veut dire qu'il y'a seulement une moyenne de 50,000 gens qui regardent du basketball de Raptors à travers Canada. 50.000 gens ! ! Le Canada n'est pas un pays de basketball. ...Le baseball: Montréal n'aimée plus les Expos. Le baseball est un sport entraint de mourir, même pour les Américains. Les jeunes Américains choisit jouer le football ou le basketball et ils regardent ces sports aussi. Dehors New York et Boston, les autres villes sont des villes de football. Quelques un sont des ville de basketball. Je suis aller à un match des Blue Jays il y a deux semaines, et je vous dit qu'il a rapporté de mauvaises mémoires. Je me trouvais dans un stade avec un dôme, a un quart-plein, avec un équipe de dernier place devant moi, qui manquaient des joueurs clé et qui semblaient jouer dans un autre saison sans succès. - J'ai vu ce film avant, et tout le monde à Montréal l'a vu aussi. Le nombres de spectateurs au match des Blue Jays decends chaque année, depuis qu'ils on gagner en 1993. Cette saison, ils vendent des billets de $2 les mardis, et même cela ils 'scorent' pas. Pour quelque matchs durant la semaine, ils annoncent 16,000 spectateurs, mais les gens qui vont souvent me dites que des fois c'est vraiment 12,000. Les Blue Jays sont chanceux d'avoir Rogers comme propriétaire et qu'ils jouent dans la 4eme plus grosse marché en Amérique du Nord , si non ils auront parti comme les Expos.
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Montréal métropole culturelle : le privé monte à bord
Maisonneuve a répondu à un sujet de mtlurb dans L'actualité
C'est vrai que à Toronto, c'est le secteur privé qui fait la difference. Montréal n'est pas au même calibre que la ville reine en termes d'economique, mais il y'a quand même un secteur privé. Lire cet article du semain passé dand le Toronto Star. C'est en anglais, mais ca vous donnerez un idée de quoi se passe à Toronto. http://www.thestar.com/comment/columnists/article/423216 -
Et si on devenait le Dubaï de l’Amérique du Nord ?
Maisonneuve a répondu à un sujet de ErickMontreal dans L'actualité
My written French isn't that great, so I apologize for mistakes ahead of time: Ici dans Ontario, la situation d'énergie est précaire. 32% de leur électricité vient du charbon. Ils obtiennent aussi du gaz naturel, mais c'est cher et montant. De plus, le gaz naturel vient du pétrole et le pétrole se réduit et augmente dans le prix. Ils ont de l'énergie nucléaire, mais les gens n'aiment pas habiter près des plantes, et les plantes coûtent cher de construire. Ils ont le hydro, mais c'est pas assez. Géothermique est une petite option et aussi le solaire, mais c'est deux option sont trop chère ($20,000 par panneau solaire). Ontario a 300 turbines de vent dans Lac Erie, mais ce n'est qu'assez d'alimenter 50 maisons pour 1 an. Si le gouvernement Fédéral est sérieux avec les cibles de Kyoto, ils regarderont abattent sur la production de charbon, parce que le charbon car c'est la ressource le plus negative. Alors, si la ressource de charbon est enlevée de l'équation, où fera la plus grande province au Canada, avec la plus grande ville (cela grandit par 100.000 par an) trouve l'électricité pour fournir leur demande qui augmente - Québec. Essentiellement, le Québec pourrait lui-même enrichir juste en vendant de l'électricité à Ontario, et maintenant sur le marché, quand une province (ou état) achète de l'électricité, il coûte 10 fois plus, que s'il avait produit cette électricité lui-même. Cela est pourquoi le gouvernement du Québec n'a pas voulu vendre Hydro-Québec. Cela est pourquoi les politiciens du Québec, surtout le PQ et le Bloc, veulent que le Canada atteint les cibles de Kyoto, parce qu'ils savent quand ce jour vient, le Québec aurait l'avantage et Ontario a le plus a perdre. Il y'a quelque semaines, une banque Canadienne disait que l' Ontario deviendra bientôt une province pauvre à cause de la richesse d'Alberta croissante. Les choses ne paraissent pas bonnes pour Ontario à l'avenir. Il y a de rien avoir recours à. Le plus grand bien d'Ontario c'est la grandeur de sa population et c'est la prise d'immigration, mais s'il perd N'IMPORTE QUEL pourcentage de provision d'énergie, leur plus grand bien deviendra leur plus grand cauchemar. C'est ironique. Le Québec peut facile réduire sa dette et est devenir une province riche dans une décennie et demi. A ce moment, l'avenir economique au Quebec n'est pas beau, mais au moins ils on Hydro-Quebec pour la faire riche. -
Another thing --The Canadiens have as their slogan "La Ville est Le Hockey - The City is Hockey", but that's not actually true. Montreal isn't as much as a hockey city as it thinks it is. It's an NHL city. Specifically Canadiens, and to a lesser degree all the Leafs, Bruins and ex-Nordique fans who live in the city. Quebec City is more of a hockey town than Montreal. Yes, they lost the Nordiques, and the Rafales, but their lovers of the sport, more so than any particular team. Toronto/GTA is a Maple Leafs town. Period. The fact that there is a AHL and 5-OHL teams doesn't make it more of a hockey town. It might seem so from outside of the GTA, but from listening to Toronto media, nobody goes to see the AHL team and even worse, nobody from Toronto goes to see OHL, which is the best hockey in the GTA. I don't know what the attendance is for those teams, but announcers on the FAN590 are always ripping Toronto fans for only being Maple Leaf fans and urging them to check out the OHL because it's good hockey, but there's no convincing Toronto fans because it's NOT the Leafs. I don't think it's a knock against people that their only Maple Leaf fans or Canadiens fans, that's normal in cities were one team is really historic and popular. I remember Colin Cowherd made the same statement about New York not being as much a baseball town as people think. NY has 2 MLB teams and 2 minor league baseball teams(Brooklyn Cyclones and Staten Island Yankees - both Single-A). Cowherd pointed out that once the Yankees or Mets get knocked out of the playoffs, the tv ratings from New York drop off the charts. He also pointed at the Yankees playing before a half empty Yankee Stadium in the 1980's when they sucked. One city that IS more a hockey town than Montreal is Boston. Maybe not now, because the Bruins are suffering from bad attendance, but NCAA hockey is very popular there and so is minor league hockey(Even Detroit with the Red Wings and Michigan State hockey could be included in this conversation). Also, New York in basketball is intense. The Knicks and Nets get support(media and public), St.John's University and Rutgers get support(media and public). And high school basketball is huge in New York City with the finals played at MSG in front of 13,000. New York Knicks aren't a historic team and neither are Boston Bruins, but those cities love basketball and hockey respectively. But Montreal and Toronto for hockey, and New York for baseball are all about Canadiens, Leafs and Yankees/Mets respectively. The great thing about having money is that you can fake stuff. You could have a minor league team just to have one, even though nobody actually goes. Exactly like MLSE does with their AHL team, the Toronto Marlies.
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As for the Q-team in Verdun I know the owner said he plans to spruce up the Verdun Auditorium with extra seats and luxury boxes. I once did a civil engineering job in that arena and it needed a lot of work - and that was back in 2000. They sent us there to take samples of the concrete under the ice(I don't know what the results were, I only took the samples). I don't think a Q-team will work in Montreal. They've tried it before with the Rocket and it failed. Plus, Q-hockey is sold as small town- family entertainment, and families aren't going to venture out to Verdun, one of the more dangerous parts of Montreal, to see junior hockey. Here in Toronto, the history of junior hockey is as failed as in Montreal. But what they've figured out here in the GTA is that junior hockey could work in the suburbs and bedroom communites around Toronto. When I was in Montreal over Christmas, I heard rumours a Q-team was coming to Dix30. That's makes more sense than anywhere on the Island. A Q-team at Dix30 could be marketed to Brossard, La Prairie, St. Constant, Longueuil, etc. I think in Montreal Metro, we need to think beyond downtown. Not everything has to be downtown or close to downtown.
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I know the Habs are playing well, but when they weren't I always thought they should bring the Maroons back. But that won't happen. It would be nice to have 2 NHL teams in Montreal, but it would be impossible with the NHL the way it is. I'm sure the businesses who can't afford to sponsor the Canadiens or get private boxes at the Bell Centre, would love to have a second option. Even people who can't afford Bell Centre ticket prices might choose to support the Maroons. I'd build an 18,000 seat arena in the West Island. Like I said, that won't happen, but 2 NHL teams in Montreal is a no-brainer, especially with all the hockey fans in Montreal who hate the Canadiens and their love for their past, insistance on having a Francophones(coaches, players). The Maroons would be an excellent alternative, but that won't happen.
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There's nothing conclusive to suggest Montreal won't be in the MLS sooner rather than later.
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I think the Impact will be in MLS sooner than anyone thinks. Malek might have a point about the stadium, but I wouldn't bother about that. It will be always full. Some of those American stadiums have a lot of empty seats. They spend $100 to $200 million on stadiums that they have to give tickets away just to fill the seats. The atmosphere for soccer in Montreal is far superior that most of those American cities. Even Toronto FC's is more exciting, and according to people here in Toronto, that's a suprise.
