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  1. This weekend was Doors Open in Toronto. Diamond + Schmitt Architects was one of the firms open. They were giving presentations on some of their ongoing projects. The last project presented was the Salle de l'OSM. The Project Architect giving the presentation was Matthew Lella, who is from Montreal. He talked about making the hall world class, both in terms of architecture and acoustics. There's 20 architects working on the project; 10 from Diamond+Schmitt and 10 from AEdifica. He talked about how the site will end a portion of De Maisonneuve Blvd creating a vista straight down the boulevard towards the hall, specifically the common area, where spectators will congregate before, during intermissions and after. I was surprised that he did not mention how the project is part of a larger urban transformation in the area. He focused on the Salle de l'OSM and its relationship to Salle Wilfred Pelletier. One of hidden parts of the architecture is how the building was designed to reduce structure-borne sound from cars in the underground parking lots and the metro. The hall will actually be 3 buildings made to look like one mass from the exterior, a common trick when designing such buildings. The actual theater will be separate from the southern and northern parts of the building. Underneath the floor slab of the theatre are large rubber spacers, similar to giant hockey pucks, placed at intervals allowing it to float relative to the structure beneath it. The acoustical engineers said in order to create an ideal buffer, the distance from the floor slab of the theater to street level would have to be 2 storeys. Having the actual hall that hight would have ruined the effect seen from the south, so they objected to that. Also, musical companies can go bankrupt having to deliver to a hall with a theater 2 storeys above the street because of the extra cost in loading, manpower and time. To avoid this, the rubber spacer idea was used so that the floor of the theater can be on the Rez-de-Chaussee on De Maisonneuve. Everyone in the room seemed shocked how something as banal as a loading dock can influence the design of a building. Those of you in the architectural know that electrical rooms, rooftop units, loading docks and other utilitarian elements can spoil a great building if not taken care of at appropriate moments in the design process. Nothing should be kept to chance. They showed pictures of the construction from within (what cannot be seen clearly from the street) of the seating area and the evolution of the form of the building. This project is a fast track contract, so the production of working drawings are happening as the building is being built. The excavation of the foundations and the pouring of the footings and foundation walls occurred while the working drawings for the rest of the building were not even completed. Other than the renderings we've all seen, most of the working drawings are being completed on the fly for substantial completion by Summer 2011. That means the interiors are probably only now being worked one. Same with the facade. Matthew Lella has been the Project Architect on similar halls in Toronto and Russia, and he wants to ensure that the Salle de l'OSM is one of the top musical venues in the world.
  2. Can Toronto bring itself to cheer for the Habs? http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/the-sporting-life/2010/05/14/can-toronto-bring-itself-to-cheer-for-the-habs/ “No born-and-bred Torontonian and Maple Leafs fan can cheer for the Canadiens,” a friend told us on Wednesday night as we walked with her to watch the Pittsburgh-Montreal game at an Annex bar. And yet, once we got there, we didn’t see a single Penguins—or even Sidney Crosby—jersey. When the Canadiens captured the series, we even heard “Olé! Olé! Olé!” bounce off the framed Leafs jerseys on the wall. Our pal sat glumly as everyone else celebrated. Can Hogtown really get behind these Habs? Past the bad blood? Is this city really that desperate for some hockey glory? Can Leafs nation cover this up by saying, “We’re just supporting the Canadian-with-an-‘A’ team”? Can Torontonians just cheer for the Rexdale rookie and Montreal defenceman P.K. Subban? Or will we show some conviction here and just ignore the Canadiens? Never mind that they’re playing gutsy, all-out hockey—the kind we’d kill to see the Leafs play for just one game. Never mind that they’re classic underdogs. Never mind that they’re obviously fooling around with destiny. And never mind that Montrealers would never, ever, get behind the Leafs. Ever. You see, for the city’s hockey scribes, a good story is a good story. Toronto sports writers are dusting off their best rhyming nicknames for Les Habitants (“Fab Habs”) and deploying such overstatements as “miracle” and “dream.” And with every Canadiens win, the Leafs get razzed. The Star’s Andrew Chung reports from Montreal’s riotous streets: “Evan Martow, a Torontonian who was born in Montreal, said he’s never seen the kind of team spirit in Hogtown. ‘People here support the team regardless of how they’re doing.’” Even CBC Radio’s The Current repeatedly knocked the Leafs during a segment about how to keep offices productive during the NHL playoffs, noting that the tips applied only theoretically to Toronto. So, Montreal, not that you care, but we guess we’re watching. Just please understand that it hurts a little.
  3. Toronto and Montreal want to trade visitors‎ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/toronto-and-montreal-want-to-trade-visitors/article1570926/ Anna Mehler Paperny From Monday's Globe and Mail Published on Monday, May. 17, 2010 12:01AM EDT Last updated on Monday, May. 17, 2010 3:27AM EDT It’s okay to cheat on your hometown with its biggest rival. Or so your local tourism board would have you believe. Montreal and Toronto are tag-teaming on a tourism gambit aimed at locals in both cities. The aim? To lure discerning tourists to the other’s metropolis – to get Torontonians to visit Montreal, and vice-versa. “There’s always been this perceived rivalry between the two cities and we’re trying to play on that,” said Tanya Churchmuch, with Tourisme Montréal. The campaign will play off the rivalry between the two cities, pegged off an Ipsos-Reid poll conducted on behalf of tourist agencies. The poll, which interviewed about 400 people in each city, found that although the majority of Torontonians visited Montreal, and vice-versa, they often didn’t tell their friends they were going. Starting Monday and running until June 7, Toronto and Montreal are each hosting mobile confession booths where residents can profess why they travel to the other city – or, heaven forbid, cheer for its hockey team. But the campaign’s cheeky slogan telling locals “It’s OK to cheat … on your city” has another motive: trying to deter them from cheating on Canada’s cities with those sultry U.S. destinations – grown all the more tempting now that the loonie is strong. While the recession meant Canadians were more likely to vacation in Canada, if they got out of town at all, a strong Canadian dollar has local tourism agencies worried they’ll lose local visitors to southerly neighbours. Andrew Weir, Tourism Toronto’s vice-president of communication, said Tourism Toronto isn’t worried as much about losing U.S. tourists – they’re trying to target more “sophisticated, urban travellers” unlikely to be deterred by the loss of advantageous exchange rates. “I think the dollar at par will have more of an impact on domestic travellers,” he said. “[Parity] is the new normal. And Toronto and Montreal both represent such extraordinary urban experiences in North America – these are experiences that [American] urban travellers are prepared to pay for, because they’re worth it.” Torontonians confess about their time in Montreal http://www.quickiewithmontreal.com/ Montrealers confessing about their time in Toronto http://www.ptiteviteavectoronto.com/
  4. People have agenda's, simple as that. Other than Toronto, no one can claim that any other city in Canada matches Montreal in terms of cultural consumption. I've visited every major city in Canada in the past 2 years, no one even comes close. I've written the following on another thread, but whenever rankings for cities come out, always consider the source and their political leanings. In Canada, rankings from right wing think tanks like the Conference Board of Canada, Fraser Institute or the C.D. Howe Institute, will always highlight the strengths of Western Canadians cities and the weaknesses of Central Canadian cities, especially Montreal. They do it all the time. It's plain boosterism. As for Maclean's, someone in their editorial must have an axe to grind against Montreal. Whenever you see a think tank or a media outlet continually leaning a certain way, it's not a coincidence. The fact that this boosterism continues, is a testament to Montreal's resiliency as a metropolis. On this forum we bemoan about the state of the metropolis, but when you measure the things the city has lost, it's remarkable how resilient it is and how it manages to reinvent itself. Maclean's thinks Montreal not a cultural capital. Well, Maclean's should seek the answers for the following question and then consider the Montreal answer for those questions: Hey Calgary, when's your Nuit Blanche ? Hey Edmonton, where's your entertainment district? Hey Vancouver, where's your Bixi and has it become part of the culture of the city? Hey Toronto, are you building any urban spaces downtown? Hey Edmonton, where's your MuvBox? Hey Ottawa, where's your provincial library? Hey Winnipeg, where's the art in your subway? (Where IS your subway?) All cities lack something. Some of those cities have things Montreal doesn't have. But to say Montreal is not a cultural capital is ignorant.
  5. Leighton was bound to get beat eventually. Goalies are not acrobats. Acrobats almost never fall, because falling may result in death, unless there's a safety net. A goalie might be confident that he hasn't let in a goal in 2 games, but that's also a burden. "I'm amazing, I haven't let in a goal in 2 games...wait a minute, I haven haven't let in a goal in 2 games. I'm due to get shelled." The acrobat walks the rope 100 feet above the ground as if he will never fall, as if he's walking a line in his living room, but as soon as he remembers that he IS 100 feet above the ground, that's when he falls. Maybe that's what happened to Leighton in game 3. Lol at the Flyers for getting a penalty for throwing the puck out of the zone.That's a bush league move.. Lol they took the puck and threw it out of the zone - cross the diamond third base to first. I agree with the Bell Centre fans - FLYERS SUCK! FLYERS SUCK! The Flyers are for the birds. Their mad because Montreal used their top PP unit with 31 seconds left in a 4-1 game. Funny how the Flyers didn't use such mercy in game 1. The fact that the Flyers are doing all this trash talking during the off day (while the Canadiens do theirs during the game - Lapierre to Carsillo: "You guys should stop drinking!") makes it obvious that Montreal's speed is something they're worried about. Notice how Gagne and Briere got less ice time because the Flyers wanted tougher players out on the ice to make the game more physical. The same thing happened to Malkin and Crosby - 3rd liners trying to make the game physical to impede the Canadiens - FAIL. You can't hit what you can't catch. And if you can't hit what you can't catch, you have to hook, hold, slash, trip - all penalties. The Flyers are trash talking saying they'll be "fired-up" for game 4....I guess that means an early power play for Montreal, maybe within the first 3 minutes
  6. Actually, I can't take credit for that. Colin Cowherd (remember that guy) from ESPN radio said that last summer on his show. He was explaining why he thought Philly sports fans are so angst ridden and such bad sports. He said that sports fans in Boston are educated, sports fans in New York run lucrative businesses, sports fans in D.C. have cozy government jobs, but sports fans in Philly all work at lumberyards and eat cheese steaks for lunch. At the time it was baseball season, so a whole bunch of Phillies fans called up in total anger. Someone else said that Philadelphia's nickname, especially in West Philadelphia, is Killadelphia because of the high murder count. It seems, Philly can be a depressing place because people wake up every day thinking "is this the day I get murdered?".
  7. Either the anthem will be booed or the crowd will ole-ole during the anthem. The, people who don't like people ole-oleing over the anthem will boo, and it will be confused with people booing the anthem. Either way, I sense Canadiens fans embarrassing themselves once again - all that celebrating in the streets last week makes Canadiens fans, and Montrealers, look silly considering how the series is going.
  8. 1. The Flyers are talking too much. You can tell by their attitude when their talking to the media that they don't think Montreal can beat them. Funny how Washington and Pittsburgh felt the same way early on in those series. 2. Glen Healy is just too much. He's so angry - at everything. Did you hear how he dumped on the Capitals and Penguins. "Montreal's never faced a defense this good. This isn't Mike Green or Jordan Leopold...The Capitals talked about getting in front of Halak, the Penguins talked about it too, but it was just that - all talk, these Flyers are getting it done!" I'm sure Mike Green and Jordan Leopold must have loved hearing how much they sucked against the Canadiens on national TV. 3. The line of the night for me has to have been Bob Cole's comment to the Flyers fans mocking Habs fan by chanting. "These Flyer fans are having a ball. Enjoy it while it last." 4. "The Relentless Pursuit of History." lol That sounds as contrived as "The Passion that Unites Us All". Don't worry Flyers fans, the Flyers are on a relentless pursuit of history - Habs history as one of the teams we beat towards the cup. At that time, your Flyers will be history. I want them to lose the series outright. I can't stand the Flyers, and after they started to taunt Montreal fans by mockingly chanting ole- ole, I hate their fans too. I don't mind fans chanting against the team, but chanting against fans or a city, that's cuts to personal for me. Philly, Philly Philly - We know why you're pissed! Boston has the Brains New York has the Money D.C. has the Power And all you have are cheesesteaks -and murders - and You Know It! You Know It! You Know It!
  9. I'm very saddened by the people that decided to riot and provoke the police. It made Montreal look bad (again) and it made Canadiens fans look bad (again). It was such a fantastic evening, and I was so proud, until around midnight when I started watching RDI and saw what was transpiring. As someone from Montreal, I thought it was shameful. It was shameful that most of them looked like they were black; looting from the Foot Locker and the SAQ with their faces covered. It's moments like that I wish I could be a cop or a prosecutor and bring thugs like that too justice. On the proud side, I loved how most of the people out there only wanted to celebrate and not cause trouble. I'm proud that the real fans are helping out police by giving them their pictures and videos from the night so that they can bring those delinquents to justice. I'm proud that many people were outraged at the scum of Montreal making all Montrealers look bad (again). Message to the looters and rioters and people who provoked the police by throwing objects at them and not listening to orders: It's 2010, people have cameras on their cells, smart phones, they have digital cameras that can take high definition images, and when people put their images on YouTube and Facebook, the police will use that to catch you looting the stores as proof. Oh and by the way, there's cameras inside the Foot Locker and SAQ too. Oh and by the way, the metro has cameras too, so the cops only need to see you in images looting, match that to images of you from various sources on the street, then match it to images of you getting on the metro and then match it with images of you getting off the metro - at a stop somewhere close to where you live....didn't think about all of that, did you? Oh ya, by the way, the cops take their own photos to ID people who are criminals in large public gatherings, so if they don't nail you for the looting last night, they'll get you the next time you commit a felony or recognize you from a felony already committed for which you were wanted for. Bottomline, you'll get caught eventually. It was such a good night, and those delinquents had to ruin it.
  10. This is big news for Montreal.
  11. Mario Beaulieu and the Movement Montreal Francais must be hoping mad - or turning in their graves on the site of the MUHC.
  12. Very true. Montreal is more diverse that people give it credit for. All those Quebec media outlets should realize this and start hiring more reporters and anchors of colour, instead of opting for a token Haitian woman doing the weather. Also, the Montreal and Quebec's political system should reflect this diversity, but it doesn't. So should the civil service. Toronto is an extremely diverse city. (it shows in their media personalities by the way. However, Toronto city council in very white with only one visible minority - strange). Vancouver often gets put in the same bracket as Toronto in terms of diversity, but it's not as diverse as Montreal. Vancouver might have a similar foreign born visible minority percentage as Toronto, but in terms of diversity of cultural groups, it's not in Toronto or even Montreal's level. Vancouver has a lot of Asians and South East Asians and not much else. Montreal has a lot more cultural communities.
  13. This was exactly my thoughts when I saw the city's turcot plan. tourner dans buerre!
  14. That's entirely possible...don't forget, there's buildings in Mississauga taller than buildings in downtown Toronto (and downtown Montreal too).
  15. Maisonneuve

    Montreal, Expos'd

    You're right MTLskyline, going to a Blue Jays game does feel like going to an Expos game. The last game I went to was in 2008. There were only 15,000 people in the Rogers Centre. It was very quite. They don't bang seats or chant at the Roger Centre. The Jays were not in contention. It felt hopeless - like how the Expos were, except the Blue Jays have a nicer stadium,solid ownership and a a few tens of thousands who give a damn. I might try to go to the Blue Jays home opener next week.
  16. Totally agree with your "move the Bell Centre" comparison MTLSkyline. People have no idea the logistics it takes to BUILD something. No wonder some people become architects and engineers, but the only building others have done was play with legos and sand when they were a kid.
  17. I'm glad to see that no one is fooled by the PQ's propaganda anymore, except of course those who are separatists. This is the same tactic used by the Mouvement Francais groups in Montreal, South Shore and North Shore. Honestly, is there really a need for a French rights activist group in les Laurentides? Certainly not, but it's the same tactic Al Gore uses to get people to care about climate change (cause if you don't, Manhattan will be submerged in water). They try to give the impossible worst case scenario to try to mobilize people against minor or phantom threats. The goal of the PQ, parties like them, and all those French rights activist groups, is to remove English completely from Quebec. Soft nationalists will say they don't mind the English population of Quebec maintaining their numbers or decreasing in number, but they don't want them to be increasing in numbers, at all. That's why there's so much outcry over Bill 104 and the 1,000 to 3,000 students it effected. Their opposition to English only serves to underline the importance of English. Their trying to NOT notice the 800 pound gorilla in the room. In 1970, it might have seemed revolutionary, but 40 years later in 2010 it seems ridiculous. Unfortunately, their fighting a losing battle. Some Francophones notice the gorilla and send their children to English private schools. If Quebec was a European country, it wouldn't matter if it wanted to protect itself with language laws and be distinct from other countries. That's how Europe is now. Every group has a right to live in its own language and culture, but if things continue as they are, there won't be much of a Quebec left, let alone a French Quebec. However, the reality is that Quebec is a part of North America, and though French is the language of the majority in the province,we need English to compete with the rest of North America for top talent and top businesses. We can't afford to isolate ourselves with our language or are distinctiveness. This in no way means that French Quebecers need to assimilate into Anglos like separatists like to say, but it just means acknowledging that English is a very important language to learn for the province to have any success. When immigrants come to North America, young professional chose to settle down or top businesses look to a location for their HQ's, you want them to choose Quebec, but why would they? That's a question the people of Quebec, especially separatists, need to ask. "Why would anyone choose to live in Quebec?" Quebec Inc. is not enough to attract top global talent and businesses when they have places like Toronto, Boston, New York, Los Angeles, Vancouver and Chicago to choose from. People need more than a language and culture to survive, they need high paying jobs, solid business opportunities, corporations with strong global connections, no barriers to integration of ANY KIND and tolerance. If Quebec can better itself and achieve those things by being more open to the English language, they should do it. Then, people WOULD have a reason to choose to live in Quebec. French can still play an important role in the society, but we can't pretend that English doesn't exist just to make some segments of the population feel more secure. French should be part of life in Quebec, but not life itself. The acceptance of English is just another pill of reality Quebecers will have to swallow, along with increased immigration, more user fees and less handouts. If some segments of the population don't want to hear that and want to resort to the terrorist tactics of the 1960's and 1970's - bring it on. Quebec is so far behind the rest of North American anyways, there's nothing to lose. It is far more important to save Quebec from itself, than to allow the province to sink itself into irrelevance just because we want accents and chapeaux over vowels.
  18. This same building has the Canadian Tire I was referring to next to the Best Buy. The Canadian Tire has one floor at grade and a second floor below grade. The Best Buy is one floor, but designed in such a way that it doesn't look like a big box store. The Canadian Tire is designed in a similar way.
  19. That's the unfortunate part of increasing the density downtown - you have to allow the "big box" stores to invade downtown. That's why there's a Canadian Tire in the Toronto Eaton Centre. Expect more Metro, Loblaws, Canadian Tire, Best Buy, Rona to invade downtown if more people start living there. Some residential buildings have big box stores on the ground level.
  20. This project is an embarrassment. Same for that bus station. The faster that project gets finished, the quicker the bus station can move their operations in there. If this project were finished, Montreal would have the nicest bus station in Canada by a LONG SHOT! Why are bus stations such dumps? You get what you pay for I guess.
  21. Looks good. I've always felt that building should have an extremely "showy" look, since it's the centerpiece to the whole quartier. The look of St.Catherine looks good too.
  22. Time to get Detectives Eames and Goren on the case...On the news they showed one of the head coverings one of the shooters use. It was a dreadlocks. Why do criminals always try to make people think that blacks are responsible for these types of crimes? Rizzuto's was shot by a "black man." The shooter might have been black, but he could have been paid by someone so that the flak doesn't trace back to the people with the original intentions. It's a tactic commonly used by the mob. Then when confronted they can say "hey, it wasn't us, didn't the news say it was some black guys." shame.
  23. I use to live in Brossard, but I haven't been to DIX30 since May, is there an RTL terminus now?
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