Expos de Montréal

denpanosekai · 30 mars 2019

Today on the "old" Champlain, I saw a Porsche with a New York license plate: MTLEXPOS

Gjm127 · 31 mars 2019

Je trouve même que le site des bassins Peel pourraient être encore plus attrayant que celui proposé par Jeffrey Loria en 2001 (site des jardins Windsor aujourd'hui) .

Une belle vue sur Griffintown/canal et si on s'assoit un peu en hauteur, on peut potentiellement voir les bâtiment du CV derrière.

J'ai fait un tour sur la corniche des bassins aujourd'hui pour voir le potentiel et j'ai pris quelques photos d'un point de vue qui pourrait donner sur les champs du outfield.

Je préfère de loin cette vue: Sur le canal, Griffintown et le CV vue vers le Nord.

Ça me rappelle un peu celui du PNC Park de Pittsburgh.

JayDee · 31 mars 2019

1 hour ago, Gjm127 said:

Je trouve même que le site des bassins Peel pourraient être encore plus attrayant que celui proposé par Jeffrey Loria en 2001 (site des jardins Windsor aujourd'hui) .

Une belle vue sur Griffintown/canal et si on s'assoit un peu en hauteur, on peut potentiellement voir les bâtiment du CV derrière.

J'ai fait un tour sur la corniche des bassins aujourd'hui pour voir le potentiel et j'ai pris quelques photos d'un point de vue qui pourrait donner sur les champs du outfield.

Je préfère de loin cette vue: Sur le canal, Griffintown et le CV vue vers le Nord.

Ça me rappelle un peu celui du PNC Park de Pittsburgh.

Merci de partager tes photos.

Mon impression est que le champ centre pointera vers la Rue de la Commune et le Vieux-Montréal avec l'extrémité du champ droit qui laissera une vue sur l'enseigne Five Roses et les gradins du champs gauche pour cacher les projets de Devimco au nord(Hexagone 1-2, ...). La vue en hauteur serait en effet superbe!

Je vais toujours avoir un pincement au coeur en regardant les Jardins Windsor, et pas juste pour cette plaie visuelle gracieuseté de True North. Le site était parfait dans le temps et représente l'un des pires fiascos du QC inc moderne et de l'héritage de Lucien Bouchard. Là où l'on gagne est que si ca se fait, on aura un stade de meilleure qualité(on a vite oublié le toit parapluie hyper cheap du Parc Labatt et que l’administration qui a suivi celle de Brochu avait coupé le budget total de 50 millions...) et il y a un monde de différences avec l'argent qu'il y a maintenant en ville pour le financer et surtout profiter d'un développement d'envergure des alentours.

IMEXHB · 31 mars 2019

N'oubliez pas ce que Bronfman a dit cette semaine:

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/sports/1160474/stephen-bronfman-se-declare-pret-pour-le-retour-du-baseball-a-montreal-blue-jays-toronto-brewers-milwaukee

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Par ailleurs, M. Bronfman a laissé entendre que les amateurs de baseball pourraient bientôt voir une maquette d'un éventuel stade.

« On travaille là-dessus. Nous aurons ça bientôt. J'aime être transparent, mais je ne dis pas de mensonges. Je n'aime pas mener les gens en bateau. »

Possiblement que le 15 mai, il pourrait y avoir un dévoilement de la maquette, l'annonce de la station du REM, un plan d'aménagement du site dans Goose Village, ...

Autre bribe d'information qui a passé sous le radar.

Éric Boyko a confirmé que l'étape la plus importante pour la MLB est de sécuriser un terrain à Montréal, comme l'a fait le groupe à Portland il y a quelques mois.

https://www.rds.ca/baseball/mlb/mlb-eric-boyko-a-rejoint-le-groupe-de-montreal-pour-l-amour-du-baseball-1.6711289

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« Je pense que c'est primordial que nous ayons notre terrain. Pour la ligue, c'est une des grandes questions. Après, nous pourrons discuter davantage. Mais c'est un sport de gentlemen. Il faut y aller en respectant la ligue et les autres clubs. »

IluvMTL · 31 mars 2019

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/how-plans-for-a-ballpark-could-change-a-montreal-neighbourhood-1.5077397

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How plans for a ballpark could change a Montreal neighbourhood

Teams aren't content with just building baseball stadiums anymore — they're creating entire districts

Kamila Hinkson · CBC News · Posted: Mar 31, 2019 7:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago

Montreal's last baseball team played at the Olympic Stadium. A new team, if the city gets one, would have its own stadium — and more. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)

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Stephen Bronfman was upbeat while talking to reporters earlier this week, giving his semi-regular update on how things are going in the push to bring baseball back to Montreal.

The next step, he said, is to officially secure a site where a new ballpark will be built.

The league has already made it clear there will be no baseball here without concrete plans for a new stadium, and Bronfman and his team have said they won't build a stadium without assurances Montreal is getting a team.

His group is looking at building the park in Pointe-Saint-Charles, on a federally owned, 8.5-hectare plot of land bordered very roughly by Bridge Street to the south, Mill Street to the east, the Peel Basin/Lachine Canal bike path to the north and the railway to the west.

Right now, the area is largely industrial. Bronfman and his team want to work with developer Devimco to create a mixed-use project in the area, "really incorporating the people of the Sud-Ouest, and really something that's open to all of Montreal."

"There's so much that goes on here in the summertime, with the festivals — Just For Laughs and Jazz — you know, a nice open rotunda where you have activities and stuff going on, it's going to be great."

(Hélène Simard/CBC)

The timeline for this project to come to life, if it ever does, is still up in the air. But the picture he painted — a space open to all, hosting activities that aren't baseball-related — is very on trend when it comes to how ballparks are being built these days.

And that means the neighbourhood may be in for a drastic change.

The Atlanta example

In an interview with The Associated Press two years ago, baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred heaped praise upon what was then a brand-new stadium: SunTrust Park, just outside Atlanta.

Built to replace a ballpark that was only 20 years old, the stadium is part of a mixed-use development that includes an entertainment district called the Battery Atlanta.

The Battery has become a source of revenue for both the Atlanta Braves, the team that owns the development, and Cobb County, where the park is located.

When it's done, the Battery will boast a number of restaurants and shops, apartment buildings, two hotels, office buildings, a movie theatre and more.

SunTrust Park is just one piece of a $1 billion mixed-use development outside Atlanta. (Brett Davis/USA TODAY Sports/Reuters)

The stadium was built as a public-private partnership between the team and the county, which contributed about $400 million US to the cost of the ballpark; the entire development, including the Battery, is estimated to have cost $1.1 billion US.

The project wasn't without controversy — news the team was leaving Atlanta took fans by surprise, and last year, there was a dispute between the team and the county over public money the team said it was owed.

But when the stadium opened in 2017, Manfred said it was a "watershed" event for baseball.

"I think the scope of the mixed-use development surrounding the ballpark and the economic opportunity it has created for the club is what people see as revolutionary."

Dozens of sports teams have gone down to check out the area. William Jegher of Ernst & Young, who is part of the Montreal group lobbying for a team, has told other media they have visited too.

Montreal would welcome back baseball with open arms, report finds

A baseball stadium at Montreal's Peel Basin? 'Interesting,' saysValériePlante

Across the league, teams are proposing and building mixed-use developments. They aren't content with just building ballparks anymore — they're creating entire neighbourhoods, anchored by stadiums.

But not everyone is interested in that kind of change.

A neighbourhood, overlooked

Developing that land isn't the only change on the horizon for eastern Pointe-Saint-Charles.

The new light rail project will run along the train tracks, and there will be a station in the area, though it's not known exactly where.

Bronfman said while his group wants to build a ballpark at the Peel Basin site, the plan is to develop it — with or without a stadium. Devimco built many of the buildings in Griffintown.

The plans for the site represent the natural progression of where Griffintown is and where it's going, Bronfman said.

But the site isn't in Griffintown — it's in Pointe-Saint-Charles, a neighbourhood some say is being left out of the process.

"The way they're talking about it, the expansion of Griffintown, the expansion of downtown, they're not even acknowledging that there is a local population living right next door in Pointe-Saint-Charles," said Cédric Glorioso-Deraiche, urban planning project manager for community group Action-Gardien.

"For us, that branding,...defining that area as the Peel Basin instead of the Pointe-Saint-Charles area, is a worrying thought."

Construction of the REM light rail train has already started in the area where the stadium would go. (CBC)

Glorioso-Deraiche said it's hard to comment on the ballpark project, since the plans haven't been publicized.

But from what's known so far, it's not looking like it will respond to the needs of the community, he said.

The group is working on creating a broader plan for developing the area from the canal, south to Victoria Bridge and west toward the Champlain Bridge.

They call it the Bridge-Bonaventure area, and they are planning different events to consult the community and see how they want their neighbourhood to look.

Mayor Valérie Plante has said she wants to work with the promoters to make sure the project would take into account the needs and reality of the area.

Return of baseball to Montreal looking 'pretty good,' says StephenBronfman

Glorioso-Deraiche said the group has asked for a meeting with her to discuss those needs, but hasn't heard back yet.

He said the group would rather see the land become a site for housing built through the National Housing Strategy — federal land used to bring a federal initiative to fruition.

"There is a lot of private land all across the country, but public land is very limited. So in that respect, we think that [the land] must be used 100 per cent for collective projects that respond to community needs."

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IMEXHB · 31 mars 2019

ll y a ces deux photos que j'ai trouvé qui donnent une idée de la vue en hauteur.

ScarletCoral · 31 mars 2019

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/how-plans-for-a-ballpark-could-change-a-montreal-neighbourhood-1.5077397

How plans for a ballpark could change a Montreal neighbourhood

Teams aren't content with just building baseball stadiums anymore — they're creating entire districts

Kamila Hinkson
CBC News
Posted: Mar 31, 2019 7:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 5 hours ago

Stephen Bronfman was upbeat while talking to reporters earlier this week, giving his semi-regular update on how things are going in the push to bring baseball back to Montreal.

The next step, he said, is to officially secure a site where a new ballpark will be built.

The league has already made it clear there will be no baseball here without concrete plans for a new stadium, and Bronfman and his team have said they won't build a stadium without assurances Montreal is getting a team.

His group is looking at building the park in Pointe-Saint-Charles, on a federally owned, 8.5-hectare plot of land bordered very roughly by Bridge Street to the south, Mill Street to the east, the Peel Basin/Lachine Canal bike path to the north and the railway to the west.

Right now, the area is largely industrial. Bronfman and his team want to work with developer Devimco to create a mixed-use project in the area, "really incorporating the people of the Sud-Ouest, and really something that's open to all of Montreal."

"There's so much that goes on here in the summertime, with the festivals — Just For Laughs and Jazz — you know, a nice open rotunda where you have activities and stuff going on, it's going to be great."

(Hélène Simard/CBC)

The timeline for this project to come to life, if it ever does, is still up in the air. But the picture he painted — a space open to all, hosting activities that aren't baseball-related — is very on trend when it comes to how ballparks are being built these days.

And that means the neighbourhood may be in for a drastic change.

The Atlanta example

In an interview with The Associated Press two years ago, baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred heaped praise upon what was then a brand-new stadium: SunTrust Park, just outside Atlanta.

Built to replace a ballpark that was only 20 years old, the stadium is part of a mixed-use development that includes an entertainment district called the Battery Atlanta.

The Battery has become a source of revenue for both the Atlanta Braves, the team that owns the development, and Cobb County, where the park is located.

When it's done, the Battery will boast a number of restaurants and shops, apartment buildings, two hotels, office buildings, a movie theatre and more.

SunTrust Park is just one piece of a $1 billion mixed-use development outside Atlanta. (Brett Davis/USA TODAY Sports/Reuters)

The stadium was built as a public-private partnership between the team and the county, which contributed about $400 million US to the cost of the ballpark; the entire development, including the Battery, is estimated to have cost $1.1 billion US.

The project wasn't without controversy — news the team was leaving Atlanta took fans by surprise, and last year, there was a dispute between the team and the county over public money the team said it was owed.

But when the stadium opened in 2017, Manfred said it was a "watershed" event for baseball.

"I think the scope of the mixed-use development surrounding the ballpark and the economic opportunity it has created for the club is what people see as revolutionary."

Dozens of sports teams have gone down to check out the area. William Jegher of Ernst & Young, who is part of the Montreal group lobbying for a team, has told other media they have visited too.

Across the league, teams are proposing and building mixed-use developments. They aren't content with just building ballparks anymore — they're creating entire neighbourhoods, anchored by stadiums.

But not everyone is interested in that kind of change.

A neighbourhood, overlooked

Developing that land isn't the only change on the horizon for eastern Pointe-Saint-Charles.

The new light rail project will run along the train tracks, and there will be a station in the area, though it's not known exactly where.

Bronfman said while his group wants to build a ballpark at the Peel Basin site, the plan is to develop it — with or without a stadium. Devimco built many of the buildings in Griffintown.

The plans for the site represent the natural progression of where Griffintown is and where it's going, Bronfman said.

But the site isn't in Griffintown — it's in Pointe-Saint-Charles, a neighbourhood some say is being left out of the process.

"The way they're talking about it, the expansion of Griffintown, the expansion of downtown, they're not even acknowledging that there is a local population living right next door in Pointe-Saint-Charles," said Cédric Glorioso-Deraiche, urban planning project manager for community group Action-Gardien.

"For us, that branding,...defining that area as the Peel Basin instead of the Pointe-Saint-Charles area, is a worrying thought."

Construction of the REM light rail train has already started in the area where the stadium would go. (CBC)