Le retour de la manifestation sur la Brutalité Policière

[MTLskyline]

Pourquoi c'est Gaddafi en anglais et Kadhafi en français ?

 

Pas certain, c'est un peu comme Iraq en anglais et Irak en français.

[Cyrus]

Pourquoi c'est Gaddafi en anglais et Kadhafi en français ?

 

Ce n'est meme pas, personne sait comment ecrire son nom en caracteres latins...

 

Not a seven letter word for anything: The myriad spellings of Gaddafi

 

Adam McDowell Mar 5, 2011 – 10:00 AM ET | Last Updated: Mar 4, 2011 8:01 PM ET

 

Gadaffi, Gaddafi, Gathafi, Kadafi, Kaddafi, Khadafy, Qadhafi, Qathafi … readers of news from North Africa know the name of Libya’s dictator comes in many versions.

 

The above list just covers the last name. There are several ways to spell the first as well, not to mention the question of whether to include the prefix “al-” or “el-” to the surname. In the book Libya: A Modern History, author John Wright noted there were 648 published versions of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s name, and that was in 1981.

 

Why are there so many ways to spell it in English?

 

First, transliterating an Arabic name — that is, making a roman-alphabet version of it — involves deciding on a consistent rendition. And for years, Col. Gaddafi refused to offer an official transliteration of his name. That allowed hundreds of versions to bloom. Second, there is no universally accepted way of transliterating Arabic into English, as there is (more or less) with Chinese, for example. Third, there cannot really be a correct way to spell Gaddafi in English anyway, since the Libyan leader’s surname — which is derived from the name of his clan, Gadadfa — can be pronounced different ways by different people in different parts of the Arabic-speaking world.

 

While similar issues bedevil almost every sound in the name, we can consider the G versus Q (versus K) question at the beginning of the surname.

 

Spoken Arabic includes four or five meaningful sounds — linguists call them phonemes — that English lacks. Formal dialects of Arabic, which are closer to the classical language of the Koran, have a phoneme called a “uvular stop.” This is produced by the uvula, the drop-shaped piece of tissue at the back of the mouth. The sound has been described as something like an olive catching in the throat. This is what is signified by the “Q” in versions of the name that use it, for example the U.S. State Department’s “Qadhafi.” The guttural uvular stop may not sound to anglophones like a posh way of speaking, but to Arab ears it is. However, “In everyday dialects, you hear Gaddafi with a ‘guh’ sound, as in ‘go,’ ” says Mohammed Sawaie, a professor of Arabic linguistics at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Va.

 

The G-spellings of Gaddafi reflect the pronunciation of the person on the street in Tripoli. Not surprisingly, given Col. Gaddafi’s tendency to speak to his people in relatively folksy Arabic on television, he himself appears to prefer the G-pronunciation. Slate magazine reported that after resisting romanizing his name for years after his takeover of Libya in 1971, the dictator sent a clue in 1986. He or his staff typed “Moammar El-Gadhafi” above his signature in a letter addressed to U.S. schoolchildren. But by then it was too late for the Roman alphabet-using world to rein in the myriad variations.

 

The National Post uses the spelling “Muammar Gaddafi.”

 

National Post

amcdowell@nationalpost.com

 

Speaking of which, the international community has finally started unleashing some whoop-ass on this Grade-A asshole, kaboom! And this graphic is informative and amusing

http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/flymerge.pdf

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[JFrosty]

If you ever travel outside Montreal (or outside Quebec) you will soon realize that Canada is filled with people who think just like me.

 

Very strong argument for separation there.

[MTLskyline]

Very strong argument for separation there.

I would say that the Plateau is kind of an epicenter for socialists in North America. The further you get from the Plateau, the more right-wingers (and centrists) there are. Even in downtown Montreal, the Conservatives routinely come second (impressive by Montreal standards) to the Liberals.

 

There will still be some people like me left even if Quebec separates (some in the Beauce, Quebec City, a few in the West Island, Outaouais, etc) You can't eradicate right-wingers completely, even by separating! (Heck even some strong separatists like Gilles Proulx greatly admire Rob Ford and Mike Harris!)

 

Outside Quebec, the Tories hover around the 50% popularity mark, much like the Republicans in the US. You have to face the fact that you live on a right-of-centre continent (even though many would like to believe they are part of Europe)! Norway, this ain't!

[Cyrus]

Police brutality!!

 

 

Ontario. More to discover (and burn!)

 

edit

 

It is such a powerful image, go and look at it again carefully and let it mijoter in your head a bit

Modifié 22 mars 2011 par Cyrus

[Aurélien]

Ça me rappelle cette chanson là :

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN7AnlQwGmY

[jesseps]

Whoever gets arrested at a police brutality demonstration (for throwing rocks or trying to destroy private property), should be shipped off to some god forsake country and see what true police brutality is like.

[MTLskyline]

^ I agree. We'll send the jihadis with them.

 

Enough is enough!

[Cyrus]

^ I agree. We'll send the jihadis with them.

 

Enough is enough!

 

Did you see the picture though? Look at the picture! (and don't just look but fail to see )