Maison Ogilvy - 65m - 17 étages (2013)

[Cataclaw]

That's what they are doing, keeping part of the Thursday's Facade(where the terrasses are) then a new entrance with a more modern design, then keeping the exising redstone building, then a new modern building where the havana cafe and empty lot ares, varying details, materials, types and architectures

 

I know, I actually found some section views on the city's web site and took a closer look. (See previous page for images)

I edited my post but you responded to it before

 

Yeah, I'm feeling ok with this project now. It's a huge investment so I'm thinking the materials used will be of a high quality.

[flight_from_kamakura]

well, not to continue on, but there are still (to my thinking) three major concerns, with regard to the crescent street situation:

1) that parking entry is going to back up traffic like crazy on crescent street and create auto/pedestrian conflict on the sidewalk;

2) the new commercial spaces reserved for bars/restos will cost a lot more than the current ones, and will be managed by corporate rather than individual property managers. this is a luxury retail group, and it's highly unlikely that they'll not put this prime restaurant space to use as they like. think w hotel on crescent street. it's a shame;

3) while i'm glad that we're bringing residential back into the core, this one seems destined to bring a chorus of complaints virtually every weekend. demolishing a quarter of the resto-bars on the street + introducing 200 or so high end condo dwellers = city actions to mitigate issues related to crescent's crew.

 

i almost never hang out on crescent, but i did when i was younger, and i still feel like it's pretty essential to the town, and though i'm a pro-development radical, i really don't like the crescent-diminishing aspect of this project. like it's potentially disastrous, something that we'll regret forever, the way our parents regreat killing the forum or bleury, or how our grandparents regret killing gauchetiere or craig.

[Carniala]

well, not to continue on, but there are still (to my thinking) three major concerns, with regard to the crescent street situation:

1) that parking entry is going to back up traffic like crazy on crescent street and create auto/pedestrian conflict on the sidewalk;

2) the new commercial spaces reserved for bars/restos will cost a lot more than the current ones, and will be managed by corporate rather than individual property managers. this is a luxury retail group, and it's highly unlikely that they'll not put this prime restaurant space to use as they like. think w hotel on crescent street. it's a shame;

3) while i'm glad that we're bringing residential back into the core, this one seems destined to bring a chorus of complaints virtually every weekend. demolishing a quarter of the resto-bars on the street + introducing 200 or so high end condo dwellers = city actions to mitigate issues related to crescent's crew.

 

i almost never hang out on crescent, but i did when i was younger, and i still feel like it's pretty essential to the town, and though i'm a pro-development radical, i really don't like the crescent-diminishing aspect of this project. like it's potentially disastrous, something that we'll regret forever, the way our parents regreat killing the forum or bleury, or how our grandparents regret killing gauchetiere or craig.

 

As for the corporate running restaurants instead of the mafia right now, I think it will help.

[WestAust]

well, not to continue on, but there are still (to my thinking) three major concerns, with regard to the crescent street situation:

1) that parking entry is going to back up traffic like crazy on crescent street and create auto/pedestrian conflict on the sidewalk

 

If you look closely at the plans submitted, the parking entrance on Crescent does not lead to the main parking, but rather to a smaller one with 41 stalls located underneath the building on crescent, that will hardly be an impact on crescent traffic. The main parking lot will only be accessible from de la Montagne

 

2) the new commercial spaces reserved for bars/restos will cost a lot more than the current ones, and will be managed by corporate rather than individual property managers. this is a luxury retail group, and it's highly unlikely that they'll not put this prime restaurant space to use as they like. think w hotel on crescent street. it's a shame;

 

3) while i'm glad that we're bringing residential back into the core, this one seems destined to bring a chorus of complaints virtually every weekend. demolishing a quarter of the resto-bars on the street + introducing 200 or so high end condo dwellers = city actions to mitigate issues related to crescent's crew.

 

i almost never hang out on crescent, but i did when i was younger, and i still feel like it's pretty essential to the town, and though i'm a pro-development radical, i really don't like the crescent-diminishing aspect of this project. like it's potentially disastrous, something that we'll regret forever, the way our parents regreat killing the forum or bleury, or how our grandparents regret killing gauchetiere or craig.

 

Things change over time, and frankly, the quality of many restaurants/bars on crescent has gone downhill a lot in the past few years, and that was way before this project was announced, look at the hard rock cafe building, nothing has opened there since it closed, long standing troika restaurant closed down replaced by some french/tapas/cocktail place that originated in tremblant called avalanche one step below of what troika used to be, nothing was ever rebuilt since the arahova burned down, for a long time there was a madison stated to open there...

 

My point is, that street needs new blood, it might not please everybody, but it will still keep some of it's character of being a street of restaurants and bars, whether more upscale or not!

[marc5770]

Quelqu'un a des infos sur le projet;

Date de commercialisation?

Prix de vante au pc2?

 

Merci.

[MartinMtl]

Quelqu'un a des infos sur le projet;

Date de commercialisation?

Prix de vante au pc2?

 

Merci.

 

La partie condo n'a pas encore été mis en vente. Sauf erreur, le projet n'a même pas encore de site web.

[swansongtoo]

So -- what I heard this evening, after a couple pints, from someone who visits Wanda's once in a while is that the Wanda owners have bought the Thursdays TM and will open a Thursdays at the previous Hard Rock on Crescent. Had a hard time figuring out if this had merit or not ... but it wouldn't be far fetched to have Thursdays move to the old Hard Rock. Could makes sense actually.

[LindbergMTL]

...et vendre Wanda's aux développeurs ou le garder?

[montréaliste]

well, not to continue on, but there are still (to my thinking) three major concerns, with regard to the crescent street situation:

1) that parking entry is going to back up traffic like crazy on crescent street and create auto/pedestrian conflict on the sidewalk;

2) the new commercial spaces reserved for bars/restos will cost a lot more than the current ones, and will be managed by corporate rather than individual property managers. this is a luxury retail group, and it's highly unlikely that they'll not put this prime restaurant space to use as they like. think w hotel on crescent street. it's a shame;

3) while i'm glad that we're bringing residential back into the core, this one seems destined to bring a chorus of complaints virtually every weekend. demolishing a quarter of the resto-bars on the street + introducing 200 or so high end condo dwellers = city actions to mitigate issues related to crescent's crew.

 

i almost never hang out on crescent, but i did when i was younger, and i still feel like it's pretty essential to the town, and though i'm a pro-development radical, i really don't like the crescent-diminishing aspect of this project. like it's potentially disastrous, something that we'll regret forever, the way our parents regreat killing the forum or bleury, or how our grandparents regret killing gauchetiere or craig.

 

 

 

One thing I would like to see is a serious upgrade of Crescent between Ste Cath and RL blvd for one thing. That part of the street could be developed imaginatively with a mix of high and medium density designs and propping up some of the really dingy business frontage. It is like night and day north and south of Ste Catherine. There are three parking lots on the stretch, and motherfugly bldgs such as the cardboard clad Con U Arts bldg that need to be redone. But the parking lots should be developed with some plaza like frontage if a high density project is built on them. More space to congregate for special events like the F1 on that block if it were used as a continuation of Crescent north of Ste Cath.

[jesseps]

Hotel de la Montagne closes in 6 days.