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NDG residents say no to new grocery store complex

Homeowners say new supermarket would create too much traffic in the neighbourhood

CBC News Posted: Mar 16, 2015 6:25 PM ET Last Updated: Mar 16, 2015 6:26 PM ET


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Some residents in Côte-des-Neiges—Notre-Dame-de-Grâce are worried that building a new grocery store in the area will create too much traffic on their residential streets.


Provigo, which has owned the piece of land on the southwest corner of De Maisonneuve Boulevard and Claremont Avenue for 17 years, wants to build a store.



​“I don't think this particular area can support that kind of traffic and disruption. Provigo is going to generate a lot of street traffic and vehicular traffic and crossing paths with pedestrians and people waiting for buses, it's not...a good combination,” said Elizabeth Shapiro, who has lived in NDG for 16 years.


Provigo’s plan is to build a 30,000 square foot supermarket. Above it would be 255 apartments, some condos for seniors and some hospital offices.


James Luck, a 40-year resident of NDG who lives a short walk away from the land, says such a big project poses a problem with all of its deliveries.


“Their own trucks -- 30 a week they say -- plus vendor trucks plus the people that come there that aren't parking in their parking which is located in their building. So there is going to be a tremendous amount of traffic which I don't think the area can support right now,” Luck said.


Luck said that with the new MUHC superhospital just around the corner, a new grocery store would only add to the congestion.


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“About 13,000 new people will be coming to the area as of April. We don't know the impact of that. There's a lot of access to the MUCH complex that is still not available. There's still the reconstruction of the overpass that was announced last week that will create a lot of traffic havoc in the area,” Luck said.


Underground parking

Before building begins, Provigo is trying to reassure residents it has everything under control.


The project includes 250 underground parking spaces — 80 of which will be reserved for Provigo customers.


The builder told CBC that community traffic concerns are being considered in the plans.


“This is going to be a state of the art Provigo — the deliveries being underground,” said Luc Maurice, CEO of Le Groupe Maurice.


In its efforts to reassure residents, Provigo officials held a public meeting inviting residents to speak their mind.


A spokesperson says the company is trying to mitigate the traffic issues.


Area residents plan to bring up their concerns at a council meeting Monday evening.



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I can't believe that this mess is the highest and best use for that property. That piece of land has everything! Views, walking distance to every amenity, easy access by car to Westmount, downtown and major highways, next door to the metro and hospital, etc. etc. Why not allow a derogation and build a narrow 25-35 story residential building with corner units, full-floor units, duplexes, penthouses etc. aimed squarely at Westmount empty nesters who want to downsize to a 2-bedroom, 1,700 sq. ft. apartment with large living room dining and kitchen. There is certainly a market for that seeing how the Redfern building sold well and it's a blah project with a bad architect. Someone recently paid $4.9M for a fully renovated penthouse at 1 Wood and it doesn't even face the mountain! From the 20th floor up you'd have unobstructed 360 degree views of the mountain, Oratoire, downtown, river and the west. Add a porte cochere, driveway, swimming pool and doorman and you would have buyers lining up to pay $900k-$2.5M for a piece of that.

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Provigo, Près Du Métro Vendôme, Reçoit Le Premier Feu Vert


Le projet conjoint du Groupe Maurice et de Loblaw a reçu son premier feu vert lors du conseil d’arrondissement du 10 août. L’arrondissement devra maintenant tenir une séance publique d’information suivie probablement d’une consultation publique.

Ce projet envisage un édifice de dix étages à l’angle du boulevard de Maisonneuve et de la rue Claremont avec au rez-de-chaussée un magasin Provigo de 4000 mètres carrés, 300 unités résidentielles pour personnes retraitées ainsi que des espaces de bureau qui abriteront le siège social de la Fondation de l’Hôpital de Montréal pour enfants.


Des opposants qui s’étaient exprimés l’hiver dernier craignent que l’impact créé par l’ouverture du CUSM combinée avec ce nouveau projet provoque une congestion qui rendra la vie du quartier pénible.


Le Comité consultatif d’urbanisme(CCU) recommandait le projet avec des restrictions comme celle de détourner les accès au stationnement souterrain (400 places) vers les rues Claremont et Sainte-Catherine. Cette recommandation n’a pas été suivie par le conseil qui autorise la sortie des véhicules sur le boulevard de Maisonneuve ouest.



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Emotions run high during consultation about development near MUHC


Emotional pleas, traffic nightmares, and construction fatigue were all discussed during a public consultation on Wednesday night about a zoning change that would allow a new grocery store and senior’s residence to be built right next to the new MUHC superhospital.


The proposed 10-storey complex on the corner of Ste-Catherine St. and de Maisonneuve Blvd. would also include apartments donated to the Children’s Hospital Foundation to be used the families of children being treated at the hospital. The building would require an exception to the current zoning requirements.


“My 6-year-old son Justin spent his last four and a half months at the Children’s,” said Katrin Nakashima, one of over 40 people who registered to speak at the consultation. “Over 140 sleeps away from his home, his family, his bed. Of course, as a parent you want to be there for every surgery, every treatment, every IV, every nighttime.”


“No matter how excellent the staff at the Children’s is, and of course they are exceptional, it’s not the same as being with your mom.”


“You’re kidding yourselves if you think the strategically-located piece of land is not going to be developed,” she said. “The other possible uses are far worse for traffic.”


One of the youngest supporters of the project was Justin Castravelli. “I’m not actually a resident of the neighbourhood,” he said, though he mentioned that his mother slept on a chair at the hospital for five nights. The lack of accommodations for families who do not live near the hospital makes stays especially stressful for children, he said.


“No Provigo, no donation (of apartments),” said Marie-Josée Gariépy, president of the foundation.


Provigo has owned the lot since 2001, according to real estate records. The senior’s residence would be managed by Groupe Maurice, a company with several retirement homes throughout Quebec.


Many residents expressed their concern that traffic issues in the area would be exacerbated, despite a study that showed traffic would not increase to unacceptable levels.


“You’re way off with your traffic studies,” said Alain Barta. “It’s bumper to bumper all day long.”


“The Montreal Children’s Hospital Foundation, bless them, is a tremendous organization. But you’re using this venue, this notion of ‘the poor children, they need these rooms.’ Absolutely. But on the other side of the tracks, there is lots of space to build them,” he said.


“I know this room has been stacked with people, but I’m sorry, we live there, and we are going to block the project.”


Elaine Arshinoff, a resident of Claremont Ave., also expressed concerns about the traffic and the pollution that follows.


“I’d like to see to see the study that says that Décarie and de Maisonneuve have acceptable levels of pollution, she said. “The only way we could have more traffic is if the cars were stacked on top of each other.”


“We have construction fatigue. We have undergone the construction of the largest hospital in North America, right in our residential neighbourhood.”


Arshinoff primarily objected to the grocery store and wouldn’t mind a senior’s residence. Several residents who spoke against the project said more than enough grocery stores served the area.


Cynthia Lulham, a city councillor in Westmount, said that a park and the curb of the road were missing in a map presented at the consultation. “We’re very pleased about the foundation. Senior’s residences, not a problem. We are worried about the deliveries for the Provigo. On that curve, it’s already a very congested area,” she said.


“The city of Westmount wants to be a good neighbour with the borough of N.D.G.—Côte-des-Neiges, and we should work together and discuss this traffic issue, as the street and sidewalk are in Westmount.”




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Projet approuvé!


CDN-NDG council approves new 10-story building complex


The Cote-Des-Neiges-N.D.G. borough council has voted in favour of a 10-story complex on the corner of Ste. Catherine St. and De Maisonneuve Blvd.

The proposed complex will include a Provigo grocery store, a senior's residence, and apartments donated to the Montreal Children's Hospital Foundation.

The apartments are for out-of-town families of sick children who wish to stay near their children during treatment.


Before construction could begin the borough had to rezone the area to approve a mixed-use building, and several residents who live nearby have been opposed to it fearing more construction and an increase in traffic in the area.


"That is part of the democratic process that can happen.We've done it before in the neighbourhood when they wanted to do changes on De Maisonneuve and we will do it again," said Jo-Anne Wemmers, one resident who opposed the project.


Marie-Josée Gariepy of the Montreal Children's Hospital Foundation was glad the project has been approved.


"We're extremely happy that the city council has voted in favour of the project. That being said the work is just beginning because now we'll have to convince the residents that live around the project that this is the best project for the neighbourhood," she said.


Despite a petition with around 300 signatures opposed to the zoning change, the council voted 5-1 in favour of the project.


The opposing vote was cast by councillor Jeremy Searle.



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Ouach, pourquoi l'inspiration des architectes d'ici sont restreints?En plus, le pire c'est que la ville de montreal accepte cela. Ça en devient pathetique.


C'est pas l'inspiration des architectes qui est restreinte, c'est le cash de ceux qui lancent des projets. Nous avons des businessman frileux, peureux, et sans le sous au Québec.

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