Expos de Montréal

[crosbyshow]

Agreed! It would be the best site!

 

 

By far the best site.

 

For me it's the only site who provide all the advantage

 

They will have to decide between South of Bassin Peel or just north

[IluvMTL]

I think market studies will help drive a final location of those available. Remember for a lot of people JC bridge is east of downtown, away from mass transit, not walkable from downtown (or long lonely walk if it is), middle of no where and far from city life once the game is over.

 

Contrast that with hip, young, happening, rejuvenated Griffintown, immediately south of downtown (an area that will likely increasingly be knows as downtown south in the next years), SLR (for arguments sake), quick cab ride or somewhat walkable to the park and very close to city night life.

 

Perception is reality.

 

So I'm not the only one who thinks that the large site just east of the Jacques-Cartier bridge is being seriously considered in the Mayor's office ...

 

Just for the sake of argument there are quite a few pluses to develop a project here, as downtown development is also moving east. The advantages apply to a stadium, but also to other projects that benefit from accessibility and visibility.

 

For instance:

 

• This site is so close to Papineau Metro that they could build a tunnel under de Lorimier to connect directly to the stadium or maybe build a second Metro entrance as there is only one
  
• Papineau Metro is a terminus to many bus lines (Plateau, Rosemount, HOMA, downtown) including many serving the South Shore)
  
• À 15 minute walk from the bus terminal, Berri Metro, Quartier Latin or Old Montréal
  
• There are actually a lot of workers in the area (SQ, SAQ, CSN, FTQ, TQ, HQ, TVA, SRC, Macdonald Tobacco as well as the employers around Place Depuis)
  
• St-Cat east is pedestrian all summer, which would make the walk from the QdS more pleasant and would provide the restos, bars and nightlife needed. And after 2018 the area to the west of Bleury...
  
• Activity to the east of Berri will continue to accelerate over the next few years...Molson (probably) for their site in front of the river as well as the giant SRC lot. The Hotel Gare Viger is approved and under way. As well as the CHUM..
  
• The lot of land in question has been vacant for decades and really huge (the largest of the 4 sites?). That would provide more design flexibity and the possibility of better integration as well as other features.
  
• The site is right next to the autoroute and the bridge (which will add more congestion though, so not really a plus, especially with underground parking added which would make it even more of a nightmare during evening rush hour on game nights...). But hey its supposed to be a walk to the stadium, no?
  
• The site is an important entrance to the city and next to an icon. It would be visible from the river, Notre-Dame street as well as the Jacques-Cartier bridge, illuminated in 2017.
  
• Eventually there will be access to the river or at least a riverside promenade that will connect this area to Old Montreal.
  

 

But I do agree with you that perception is everything, and many will consider it too far or too east, although maybe 5 minutes further than the Griffintown site. And a mere 4 metro stations closer to downtown that the Big O.

 

Griffintown is the popular favourite. Let's hope the land is large enough to adequately service a stadium that meets MLB requirements and is not sold to other interests before we get down to serious business. Griffintown developers may already have their eye on that land....

 

Personally I would prefer to see dense residential development by the bridge, offering fantastic views of the river and the J-C bridge, but one thing is certain, there are very few sites large enough to support a downtown stadium and market forces will dictate how long they will remain vacant. In the end, when there is serious talk and negociations about bringing a baseball team back to Montreal, there may be a lot fewer sites to consider. Time may be running out for a Griffintown site, mainly because it is so hot.

 

East sites

 

West sites

 

Modifié 3 décembre 2015 par IluvMTL

[MtlMan]

I think market studies will help drive a final location of those available. Remember for a lot of people JC bridge is east of downtown, away from mass transit, not walkable from downtown (or long lonely walk if it is), middle of no where and far from city life once the game is over.

 

Contrast that with hip, young, happening, rejuvenated Griffintown, immediately south of downtown (an area that will likely increasingly be knows as downtown south in the next years), SLR (for arguments sake), quick cab ride or somewhat walkable to the park and very close to city night life.

 

Perception is reality.

 

Franchement, je marche ça très souvent, c'est pas loin pantoute. Faut pas exagérer! Pour moi ça fait partie du "centre-ville". Après Papineau à l'est, c'est pus le cv. Mais avant ça oui.

 

Cela dit, c'est sur que le côté hip de Griffintown est très attrayant et a un potentiel énorme, bien plus que le Village. Je suis d'accord là-dessus.

[montréaliste]

Yes, Griffintown and the basin for a stadium are not out of the way. They connect nicely with Old Montreal and downtown, and they are no more difficult to get to than Molson stadium for instance.

[nickdude]

http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/tax-rate-remains-hurdle-for-baseball-in-montreal-valentine-says

[Nameless_1]

Ottawa ne financera pas un stade de baseball à Montréal

 

Si un nouveau stade doit être construit à Montréal, il devra l’être sans l’aide d’Ottawa, puisque le fédéral ne financera pas les projets d’infrastructure pour les équipes sportives professionnelles.

 

«Nous avons d'autres priorités, soit d'investir dans les infrastructures critiques pour nos communautés, et nous allons nous concentrer sur ce type d'infrastructures», a indiqué à La Presse le ministre de l’Infrastructure et des Collectivités Amarjeet Sohi.

 

Pas d’argent de Québec non plus

 

La construction d’un nouveau stade dans l’éventualité où les Expos reviendraient à Montréal risque d’être ardue. Philippe Couillard a déjà annoncé, en mai dernier, qu’il n’entendait pas financer un tel projet.

 

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/12/16/ottawa-ne-financera-pas-un-stade-a-montreal

[MtlMan]

In this province? It's the beloved federal gov that just said no. Provincials are still open to it.

 

Anyway, I agree with the Gaspe thing, though. Waste of money to satisfy far far away poor regions (like the Quebec equivalent of Tatooine).

[IluvMTL]

but hey when its f*ckin time to build a cement plant in Gaspe - then let's find the $250-300M to build it.

 

Such bullshit in this province. MLB would bring in huge revenues for provincial coffers. Montreal is such low priority.

 

Don't underestimate Kid Coderre...

[vincethewipet]

but hey when its f*ckin time to build a cement plant in Gaspe - then let's find the $250-300M to build it.

 

Such bullshit in this province. MLB would bring in huge revenues for provincial coffers. Montreal is such low priority.

 

Même avant de parler de la cimenterie, on pourrait mentionner l'amphithéâtre Vidéotron de Québec, la Place Bell de Laval, ou l'amphithéâtre extérieur pour Evenko dans le parc Jean-Drapeau (le moins cher de la gang pour Montréal ). Des infrastructures de loisirs pour de grosses compagnies privées payées à même nos impôts Dans ce contexte, la limite pour le baseball semble assez arbitraire.

[IluvMTL]

So Kid Coderre is going to pump municipal money.

He's (we are) pumping 70 million (before cost overuns) into the amphithéâtre for Molson/Evenko.

 

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