TGV: Liaison Windsor - Québec

[monctezuma]

Ottawa

Le projet de TGV entre Québec et Windsor n'est pas une priorité

 

Dominique La Haye

15/11/2011 18h18

 

OTTAWA – Malgré la volonté de la province, le gouvernement Harper confirme qu’il n’a pas l’intention de mettre sur les rails le projet de train à grande vitesse du corridor Québec-Windsor, dont l’étude a été rendue publique mardi.

 

L’attaché de presse du ministre fédéral des Transports et de l’Infrastructure, Denis Lebel, a confirmé que le projet de TGV qui fait l’objet depuis plusieurs années de discussions entre Ottawa et les gouvernements ontarien et québécois ne fait pas partie des priorités des conservateurs. Il évoque notamment la situation économique actuelle et les 20 milliards $ qu’il en coûterait pour réaliser le projet.

 

«Dans ces circonstances fiscales, un nouveau projet d’une telle ampleur n’est pas une priorité pour notre gouvernement», a indiqué par courriel l’attaché de presse du ministre Lebel, Pierre Floréa.

 

Il a ajouté que le gouvernement s’est néanmoins engagé à offrir des services «plus rapides» pour les passagers de train dans le corridor Québec-Windsor avec des investissements à Via Rail.

 

Le fédéral a officiellement dévoilé mardi l’étude du consortium EcoTrain, dont le Journal de Québec avait obtenu copie le mois dernier, qui conclut que le corridor est techniquement réalisable.

 

Dans cette étude mandatée par Ottawa et les gouvernements ontarien et québécois, on apprenait notamment qu’un tel projet coûterait de 18,9 milliards $ à 21,3 milliards $, reliant Québec, Montréal, Toronto et Windsor. Les tronçons les plus viables seraient ceux entre Québec et Toronto et Montréal et Toronto et ceux-ci profiteraient à l’ensemble de l’économie canadienne. Deux scénarios, qui permettaient de transporter chacun 400 passagers par rame, ont notamment été retenus par les auteurs de l’étude.

 

Malgré les dépenses considérables liées à un tel projet, le ministre québécois responsable de la région de la Capitale-Nationale, Sam Hamad, s’était alors dit convaincu que la région de Québec avait besoin d’un train à grande vitesse même s’il était impossible pour un tel projet d’être rentable.

[jesseps]

Ottawa

Le projet de TGV entre Québec et Windsor n'est pas une priorité

 

You beat me to it.

[MtlMan]

On n'est pas surpris. Entre ça pis de belles grosses prisons neuves et rutilantes........

[Vaillant]

le Qubébec va bientôt faire faillite et aussi bien de faire le TGV et d'autres projets important au moins la faillite de l'état en aura value la peine!

[Vaillant]

On n'est pas surpris. Entre ça pis de belles grosses prisons neuves et rutilantes........

 

c'est certain que le gouvernement n'a pas ces priorités à la bonne place

[GDS]

Une chance - projet stupide. Il n'aurait jamais été rentable.

[jerry]

Ontario to spend millions on high-speed rail line between Toronto and Windsor

Paul Bliss, CTV News Toronto 
Published Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:23PM EDT 
Last Updated Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:56PM EDT

Ontario is going to spend millions to begin the process of building a high speed rail corridor between Toronto and Windsor that would cut travel times in half for passengers, CTV News Toronto has learned.

Premier Kathleen Wynne is expected to make the announcement Friday.

Sources say $15 million will be spent on an environmental assessment. During this assessment the first phase will examine design and specifications of the line that will connect Toronto to Guelph, Kitchener/Waterloo, London and eventually Chatham and Windsor.

The initial phase would see the trains go to London. It is hoped that the high-speed rail would open up vast areas of affordable homes to people who want to work in Toronto but live outside of the city.

A report commissioned by the Ontario government and carried out by former federal transport minister David Collenette examining the feasibility of the line will be released on Friday.

The report estimates there would be 10 million annual riders by the year 2041. Two scenarios are being proposed. The first scenario would see trains travel at a top speed of 300 km/h at a cost of $149 million per kilometre. The other scenario would see trains that travel at a top speed of 250 km/h at a cost of $55 million per kilometre.

Those prices per kilometres are in line with prices of high speed rail lines in Europe.

In this plan, the Ontario government would seek out private financing and private partners while working with VIA Rail and Metrolinx. As well, a new government body is planned to oversee design and implementation of high speed rail line between Toronto and Windsor.

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-to-spend-millions-on-high-speed-rail-line-between-toronto-and-windsor-1.3420205

[p_xavier]

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2017/05/19/wynne-is-all-aboard-21b-high-speed-rail-project.html

 

Pendant que les fédéraux brettent...

J'aimerais voir le QC avoir plus d'ambition!

 

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High-speed rail is finally picking up steam in Ontario.

After years of talk, the provincial government on Friday committed $15 million for a “comprehensive environmental assessment” for a rail line on new and existing track to handle 250 km/h trains running between Toronto and Windsor.

The estimated $21-billion project would slash the travel time from four hours to two.

“This is an idea that has been around a very long time. This has been talked about for decades. The best time to build high speed rail was 40 years ago. The second best time is today,” said Premier Kathleen Wynne in London, Ont.

“We need to get moving on this. We’ve got to do it this time, folks,” said Wynne, adding people want “action” not more “excuses” by politicians for not building fast trains.

The premier announced a new governing body to oversee the design and implementation of the rail line with planned stops at Union Station, Pearson International Airport, Kitchener-Waterloo, Guelph London, Chatham, and Windsor.

A first phase between Toronto and London could be up and running within eight years and the London to Windsor stage could be ready for 2031.

At $60 million per kilometre, the 350-km line would be a relative bargain compared to the planned one-stop 6.2-km Scarborough subway extension that has ballooned to $3.4 billion.

“Building high speed rail along the Toronto-Windsor corridor isn’t just a game changer for southwestern Ontario — it’s going to deliver benefits all along the line,” Wynne told reporters.

“The Toronto-Windsor corridor is home to over seven million people and 60 per cent of Ontario’s economy. At its centre is London. We’re outgrowing our current transportation network,” said the premier, noting young people are especially keen on low-carbon transportation alternatives.

Wynne said 10 million passengers a year could be using the line by 2041.

“Whether it means accepting a job that previously seemed too far away, visiting family more often or having ready access to the innovators who can take your business growth to the next level — high-speed rail will make a real difference in people’s lives and drive economic growth and jobs.”

Transportation Minister Steven Del Duca noted that an extensive provincial report released Friday concluded there is a business case for high speed rail along the Toronto-Windsor corridor.

“This is a precedent-setting project. We want to make sure fundamentally that we get this right,” said Del Duca, predicting commuters could travel between London and Union Station in 73 minutes, a trip that can currently take three hours.

The report – prepared by former federal transport minister David Collenette, Ontario’s special advisor on high speed rail – suggested the private sector could help finance and build the massive project.

“There have been thorough market soundings with the private sector, organized by Infrastructure Ontario,” wrote Collenette, referring to the government agency that oversees the financing and construction of hospitals, court houses, and the Eglinton Crosstown LRT.

“All of this work has led me to the conclusion that a business case exists for HSR (high speed rail) in the corridor, which would connect Toronto, Pearson Airport, Guelph, Kitchener-Waterloo, London, Chatham and Windsor,” he continued.

“I have also concluded that there are opportunities to engage the private sector in financing and delivering the project.”

Collenette pointed out the line could effectively pay for itself in improving efficiencies for Ontarians over the next few generations.

“Overall, HSR will yield over $20 billion in economic benefits over 60 years from passenger travel time savings, automobile operating cost savings, GHG (greenhouse gas) reduction benefits, benefits from reduced congestion on roads, and other wider economic benefits,” he wrote.

Such a scheme would also help the Liberals politically.

With an election set for June 7, 2018, the governing party is desperate to hold its one southwestern Ontario seat – London North Centre, which is represented by Deputy Premier Deb Matthews.

Matthews, who Wynne praised for championing the project at cabinet, said the announcement is “good news” for London’s economy.

High speed rail would also be popular in Kitchener and could be helpful to MPP Daiene Vernile (Kitchener Centre) and Natural Resources Minister Kathryn McGarry (Cambridge).

Premiers have long promised high speed rail, which is commonplace in France, Spain, Germany, Italy, and China.

In 2008, former premiers Dalton McGuinty of Ontario and Jean Charest of Quebec commissioned a joint feasibility study of a line from Quebec City to Windsor.

“This has been talked about for quite some time, but every once in a while there’s an idea whose time actually comes,” McGuinty said nine years ago.

 

Modifié 19 mai 2017 par p_xavier

[ToxiK]

Il y a 3 heures, p_xavier a dit :

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2017/05/19/wynne-is-all-aboard-21b-high-speed-rail-project.html

 

Pendant que les fédéraux brettent...

J'aimerais voir le QC avoir plus d'ambition!

 

 

Avoir plus d'ambition serait un TGV vers New York...

[Calvin]

4 minutes ago, ToxiK said:

Avoir plus d'ambition serait un TGV vers New York...

Un train qui irait aussi vite que l'auto ce serait déjà bien.
Actuellement 6h30 entre Montréal et Albany, sans compter l’arrêt à la frontière... complètement inutile sauf pour les touristes.

Avec les Adirondack à traverser un TGV c'est pas pour demain.