ville-marie Douanes américaines - Gare Centrale

[ERJ-Boy]

Les travaux faits par les états du Vermont, du COnnecticut et du Massachusetts sont tout de même bien avancés (surtout la partie entre New Haven et Springfield, sur lesquels, à terme, on vise le 180km/h). 

[nephersir7]

Amtrak parle d'environ 3 ans avant que tout soit prêt

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Amtrak Director of Operation Service Planning Ed Courtemanch says the new rules will help create a standardized crossing procedure for rail passengers.  “We cross the border at three locations in two directions each and there are six variations of what happens. And that is because there is no standard process and the border agencies would really like to have a standard process. But there is no standard process because the physical configuration and the operation at each location is different.”

Courtemanch cautions that it could be three years before state-of-the-art facilities are ready to pre-clear rail passengers.  “First of all it won't be right away. Now that the legislation has been signed in both countries the border agencies can proceed to write their design specifications and regulations for pre-clearance.  It will really advance the state-of-the-art for rail travelers going across the border and open up new travel possibilities.”

Amtrak crosses into Canada at three locations: Rouses Point/Lacolle, Niagara Falls, NY and Ontario, and at a pre-inspection site between Seattle and Vancouver. Amtrak says Vermont has expressed interest in restoring passenger rail service to Montreal once preclearance is operational.   

http://wamc.org/post/canadian-approval-preclearance-encourages-rail-travelers

[Calvin]

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MONTPELIER - The effort to restore passenger train service between Vermont and Montreal has cleared major legislative hurdles in the United States and Canada, but several logistical challenges remain.

The Canadian Parliament approved legislation last month that would allow a new security clearance facility to be built in Montreal's Central Station, where passengers would be screened as they come and go from Canada. The U.S. Congress already approved a similar measure.

"That legally allows the two countries to work in each other's countries," said Daniel Delabruere, rail program director for the Vermont Agency of Transportation, speaking at a recent meeting of the Vermont House Transportation Committee. "Now we’re going to be allowed to send customs and border protection folks into Montreal and actually work."

Details of when, and exactly how, the trains will run must still be decided. 

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., is a champion of the project

"With this legislation now in place, Canada and the United States — and especially Vermont — are poised to reap the rewards of improved border security and better economic growth," Leahy said in a December statement. "I look forward to continuing my work and partnership with the Canadian government to make expanded preclearance a reality."

 

Leahy's office said the same legislative effort is expected to improve air service between Burlington International Airport and Toronto City Airport.

The Vermonter train brought passengers to Montreal from 1972 to 1995, when the service was suspended due to long labor- and security-related delays at the border. The train currently runs from Washington, D.C. to St. Albans. The new leg of the route would run from St. Albans to Montreal without stopping.

In addition to reviving the Vermont route, the security facility would also expedite border crossings for the Adirondack train that runs between New York City and Montreal. That train currently stops at the border for about 1.5 or 2 hours, Delabruere said.

Delabruere was unwilling to provide a timeframe for the long-awaited project when he spoke with lawmakers. 

"Timing? I don’t know," Delabruere said, according to a recording of the committee meeting. 

"Three years," one committee member suggested, laughing.

"That was what we heard five years ago," another lawmaker recalled.

Delabruere said funding for the project remains unclear. He said the route needs about seven miles of track upgrades, recalling an "inspection tour" he took with other officials last summer. 

"You literally can feel the border," he said.

Officials on both sides of the border need to work out logistical challenges to ensure the train runs directly from St. Albans to Montreal without stopping, even to allow another train to cross. Switches, crossings and bridges along the route must be in place before the train can leave St. Albans.

Delabruere said U.S. and Canadian officials must work together to decide how to handle passengers who do not pass security clearance after they arrive in Canada.

"As you can see, it’s fairly complicated, right? There’s a lot to it," he said. "You don’t just start the train and go."

Brian Searles, a consultant on the project, told lawmakers in 2016 that Amtrak would schedule four trains through Montreal daily, or one round trip each for the Vermonter and the Adirondack.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/government/2018/01/17/vermont-montreal-train-project-rolls-forward-but-boarding-years-away/1014655001/

[nephersir7]

“I would think no later than 2020,” said Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) when he expects the service to return.

http://www.graydc.com/content/news/Restored-train-service-to-Montreal-chugs-closer-to-reality-469415253.html

[nephersir7]

Une répétition de l'annonce? L'entente n'était pas en vigueur? 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-and-u-s-agree-to-expand-preclearance-options-for-travellers-goods-1.4477357

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and President Donald Trump announced Thursday that they intend to implement the new preclearance agreement this summer as part of a deal that has been in the works for years."

[p_xavier]

12 minutes ago, nephersir7 said:

Une répétition de l'annonce? L'entente n'était pas en vigueur? 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-and-u-s-agree-to-expand-preclearance-options-for-travellers-goods-1.4477357

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and President Donald Trump announced Thursday that they intend to implement the new preclearance agreement this summer as part of a deal that has been in the works for years."

À ma compréhension c'était en vigueur, j'imagine que c'est pour une entente sur le partage des coûts.

[jesseps]

If the Vermonter service does come back, may'be just may'be I will take it, instead of driving all the way to DC

[nephersir7]

30 minutes ago, p_xavier said:

À ma compréhension c'était en vigueur, j'imagine que c'est pour une entente sur le partage des coûts.

Je viens de fouiller et j'ai trouvé cette slide datant de septembre 2018:

https://ebtc.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/PS-SP-2753998-v1-Preclearance_-_Presentations_-_EBTC_September_2018.pdf

 

LRMA = Agreement on Land, Rail, Marine and Air Transport Preclearance

Ce qui vient d'être annoncé cette semaine, c'est que la ratification du LRMA devrait se faire cet été (au lieu de "early 2019")...

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Selon un décret publié le 12 juin 2019 dans la Gazette du Canada, la loi de 2016 passée en décembre 2017 entrera en vigueur lorsque le LRMA sera ratifié:

Conformément à l’article 65 de la Loi sur le précontrôle (2016), le présent décret établit que la Loi sur le précontrôle (2016) [la Loi] entre en vigueur à la date à laquelle l’Accord entre le gouvernement du Canada et le gouvernement des États-Unis d’Amérique relatif au précontrôle dans les domaines du transport terrestre, ferroviaire, maritime et aérien (l’Accord) entre en vigueur.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2019/2019-06-12/html/si-tr34-fra.html

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Pas croyable comme c'est long!

Modifié 24 juin 2019 par nephersir7

[santana99]

Le 2017-12-08 à 13:08, helios_the_powerful a dit :

Faut pas oublier non plus que la Nouvelle-Angleterre travaille fort en ce moment pour allonger le trajet du Vermonter vers Montréal et celui de l'Ethan Allen vers Burlington (et potentiellement Montréal). Le trajet a beau encore être long sur l'Adirondack jusqu'à New York, il deviendra tout à fait compétitif pour se rendre à Plattsburgh ou Lake Placid et plus tard vers Burlington, les montagnes du Vermont/New Hampshire ou le Connecticut. C'est un début.

Vivement que le Vermonter jusqu'à Montréal soit opérationnel. Moi, j'irais à Burlington régulièrement, et de temps en temps à New York. Et le prédédouanement va rendre le parcours beaucoup plus agréable.

Je suis convaincu que d'ici les deux prochaines années ce dossier va beaucoup progressé, et que le service, avec les raccordements (Amtrak), va se mettre en place.

Le trajet jusqu'à New York ne sera pas interminable,et Burlington en train sera un plaisir.

 

 

[Maisonneuve]

There should be regular train service between both Burlington and Plattsburgh to Montreal. Those cities are our U.S suburbs! And the North County Chamber of Commerce in Plattsburgh sees themselves as that.