ville-marie 1500, boul. de Maisonneuve Ouest - 19 étages

[vincenzo]

I hope this building will be set back in line with the Concordia building to the west so that we have a "square like" space in front of it.

[SupremeMTL]

20-storey condo project would be 'a wall in the middle of campus' says Concordia Student Union

Cindy Sherwin, Reporter

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/20-storey-condo-project-would-be-a-wall-in-the-middle-of-campus-says-concordia-student-union-1.4563388

@CSherwinCTV

Published Friday, August 23, 2019 9:45PM EDT 

 

The Concordia Student Union is calling on the university and the city to stop a condo project in the midst of the school’s downtown campus, saying the building could squash any last hopes of a student building.

“We were speaking to one of our real estate consultants and we asked about this building,” said CSU President Christopher Kalafatidis. “We’re really hoping to get this one and he was like ‘Oh, that’s going to get demolished in a few weeks.’ We freaked out.”

The building that currently stands on the corner of Mackay and de Maisonneuve once was home to a restaurant but also rented out space to at least one Concordia club.

CSU Internal Coordinator Marin Algattus said student groups have been starved for space, a problem that a dedicated building could solve.

“I manage all the clubs on campus and we have clubs living in fire escapes, in closets,” she said.

The CSU said that rather than student space, they’ve been told a 20-storey condo building will go up.

“This is literally building a wall in the middle of our campus,” said Kalafatidis.

The condo project has already been approved by the City of Montreal. City councillor Cathy Wong, who represents the district, was not available for comment.

“This really shows that the city really doesn’t care about Concordia students,” said Kalafatidis, who added that he was told the school wanted to buy the land but the deal didn’t work out. With construction not yet started, Kalafatidis said he still hopes Concordia can take action.

“Escalate it to the municipal government. That’s where we think we need to go now,” he said. “We know we’re definitely going to do that and we want Concordia University to join us in that endeavor.”

When reached for comment, a Concordia spokesperson declined to comment.

[fmfranck]

C'est un projet comme il y en a des dizaines dans ce quartier de Montréal, je vois pas le problème. Surtout si on prend en considération que : 

1- Le campus de Concordia au CV s'est inséré dans un quartier dense qui existait déjà. On ne parle pas de McGill ou de l'UDM quand même. Tout comme l'UQAM, Concordia est un campus urbain qui doit s'adapter à son environnement. 

2 - Ce terrain n'est pas la propriété de Concordia ou de la Ville de Montréal. Je ne vois pas pourquoi on blâme la ville de ne pas avoir à coeur le bien-être des étudiants. Elle devrait bloquer tout projet où des associations étudiantes loue des locaux? Pire encore, elle devrait faire elle-même des recherches pour savoir où les associations étudiantes loue des locaux. Je comprend la frustration, mais ce genre d'objection devrait au préalable être faite à travers l'Université. 

 

[mk.ndrsn]

À l’époque, les résidents du secteurs s'opposaient à la construction des buildings JMSB et EV non? Ah, l'ironie...

Si la CSU (et l'université) sont en manque critique d'espace, c'est bien étrange qu'ils réagissent si tardivement.

Une solution serait peu-être de déplacer certaines activités et unités vers le campus de Notre-Dame-de-Grâce. Le secteur gagnerait à se développer, et la branche ouest de la ligne rose pourrait bien se réaliser à moyen terme.

[acpnc]

On construit à l'échelle des immeubles voisins adjacents sur Mackay, un geste urbain tout à fait cohérent. On densifie le secteur parce qu'il y a un marché et une demande soutenue. Enfin on rentabilise un immeuble compte tenu de la valeur foncière du terrain.

Je veux bien sympathiser avec l'association étudiante mais soyons réalistes, il n'y aucune raison majeure pour empêcher la concrétisation de ce projet, ni aucun dommage notable à une tiers. Ici on est à l'école de la vie et on apprend que l'on ne gagne pas à tous les coups.

[mk.ndrsn]

il y a 27 minutes, acpnc a dit :

On construit à l'échelle des immeubles voisins adjacents sur Mackay, un geste urbain tout à fait cohérent. On densifie le secteur parce qu'il y a un marché et une demande soutenue. Enfin on rentabilise un immeuble compte tenu de la valeur foncière du terrain.

Je veux bien sympathiser avec l'association étudiante mais soyons réalistes, il n'y aucune raison majeure pour empêcher la concrétisation de ce projet, ni aucun dommage notable à une tiers. Ici on est à l'école de la vie et on apprend que l'on ne gagne pas à tous les coups.

From what I understand, the university drop the ball when they failed to acquire the building. CSU’s criticism of the city and the promoter seems misguided.

[MDCM]

31 minutes ago, mk.ndrsn said:

From what I understand, the university drop the ball when they failed to acquire the building. CSU’s criticism of the city and the promoter seems misguided.

Concordia wasn't looking at this space for CSU at all - they need temporary classes, and are instead using the parking lot in front of that building.

It looks like CSU saw potential in that building after tenants have all moved out - Oh look at this empty building. Well guess why they all moved out, not for your kind eyes Mr. Kalafatidis, who says he "freaked out.” - how professional. 

[orages lointains]

If this cupcake just learned about this project a few weeks ago, he's not doing his job.  Anyway, what's wrong with the parking lot by Bethune Square?  That would be the place to put pressure on Concordia - it's the ideal site for a new building.      

[Rocco]

4 hours ago, SupremeMTL said:

20-storey condo project would be 'a wall in the middle of campus' says Concordia Student Union

Cindy Sherwin, Reporter

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/20-storey-condo-project-would-be-a-wall-in-the-middle-of-campus-says-concordia-student-union-1.4563388

@CSherwinCTV

Published Friday, August 23, 2019 9:45PM EDT 

 

The Concordia Student Union is calling on the university and the city to stop a condo project in the midst of the school’s downtown campus, saying the building could squash any last hopes of a student building.

“We were speaking to one of our real estate consultants and we asked about this building,” said CSU President Christopher Kalafatidis. “We’re really hoping to get this one and he was like ‘Oh, that’s going to get demolished in a few weeks.’ We freaked out.”

The building that currently stands on the corner of Mackay and de Maisonneuve once was home to a restaurant but also rented out space to at least one Concordia club.

CSU Internal Coordinator Marin Algattus said student groups have been starved for space, a problem that a dedicated building could solve.

“I manage all the clubs on campus and we have clubs living in fire escapes, in closets,” she said.

The CSU said that rather than student space, they’ve been told a 20-storey condo building will go up.

“This is literally building a wall in the middle of our campus,” said Kalafatidis.

The condo project has already been approved by the City of Montreal. City councillor Cathy Wong, who represents the district, was not available for comment.

“This really shows that the city really doesn’t care about Concordia students,” said Kalafatidis, who added that he was told the school wanted to buy the land but the deal didn’t work out. With construction not yet started, Kalafatidis said he still hopes Concordia can take action.

“Escalate it to the municipal government. That’s where we think we need to go now,” he said. “We know we’re definitely going to do that and we want Concordia University to join us in that endeavor.”

When reached for comment, a Concordia spokesperson declined to comment.

Where was this student union when the lot/building was for sale? The deal is done and they will built it. Anyway, students live in all the rental towers around, why build a student house in a neighbourg filled with rental apartments?

[Djentmaster001]

On 26/08/2019 at 14:20, mk.ndrsn said:

From what I understand, the university drop the ball when they failed to acquire the building. CSU’s criticism of the city and the promoter seems misguided.

They tried acquiring the building twice, the owner refused and apparently wanted to take Concordia to court (from what I was told by the CSU). I'm also surprised noone in the CSU, previously + this one in charge knew about the building, I told them that it's been planned/discussed since 2018.