montréal REM (ligne A) - Discussion générale

[cprail]

11 minutes ago, SKYMTL said:

-  There is no way the road network around there could sustain an influx of 2,500 cars heading to / from a parking lot.  As it stands, there's minor gridlock on Friday / Saturday nights when movies at the Colisee all finish at the same time.   That needs to change right away. 

Les signaux de l'administration municipale ne sont pas non plus très clairs non plus sur le devenir du futur boulevard urbain dans l'axe 440 (quoi qu'il demeure inscrit au PTI).

[SKYMTL]

37 minutes ago, SkahHigh said:

There will be a complete overhaul of the interchange to adress that issue. 

It is another "putting the wagon before the horse" situation.  The station + parking is supposed to be built before the overpass modifications are even started.  

[SkahHigh]

à l’instant, SKYMTL a dit :

It is another "putting the wagon before the horse" situation.  The station + parking is supposed to be built before the overpass modifications are even started.  

I believe they plan on re-doing the interchange as part of the REM construction.

[SKYMTL]

43 minutes ago, cprail said:

Les signaux de l'administration municipale ne sont pas non plus très clairs non plus sur le devenir du futur boulevard urbain dans l'axe 440 (quoi qu'il demeure inscrit au PTI).

My point is that "Future" is not what's needed.  

4 minutes ago, SkahHigh said:

I believe they plan on re-doing the interchange as part of the REM construction.

The interchange is supposed to be done in parallel with the project mentioned above (the urban boulevard).  At this point there's no approvals, consultation or even a timeline for that.  It'll become another Cavendish situation but we're just not admitting it. 

Source:  http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/west-island-gazette/pierrefonds-roxboro-mayor-remains-hopeful-for-new-urban-boulevard

"“That’s something we’ve been working on for years. It’s pencilled in the capital works program, but with no clear indication this will happen anytime soon. It’s possibly longterm planning and won’t be even looked at till 2020, which is unreasonable.”

Modifié 13 février 2018 par SKYMTL

[nephersir7]

il y a 10 minutes, SKYMTL a dit :

The interchange is supposed to be done in parallel with the project mentioned above (the urban boulevard).  At this point there's no approvals, consultation or even a timeline for that.  It'll become another Cavendish situation but we're just not admitting it.

There are three components in the project:

1) REM Station accesses & integration
2) The boulevard itself
3) The interchange 

#1 is definitely happening & prioritized, while #2 #3 are at least being delayed and might utimately be scrapped. 

[SKYMTL]

Just now, nephersir7 said:

There are three components in the project:

1) REM Station accesses & integration
2) The boulevard itself
3) The interchange 

#1 is definitely happening & prioritized, while #2 #3 are at least being delayed and might utimately be scrapped. 

You're highlighting my concern of infrastructure lagging far behind the development of public transport in this case.  I pass by this area every day and I know exactly what is going to happen:  

1) People will pass through small residential streets (Elkas for example) to get to the REM station.  This will cause no small amount of danger in already-congested areas, not to mention around the school on Elkas.  

2)  The service road -which already has serious flow problems due to the "traffic calming" stop sign right after the current overpass- will become even more of a nightmare.

3)  Citizens will complain (if you thought downtown has NIMBY's, wait till you see what the West Islanders cook up!) which will lead to more traffic calming measures.  

Basically what I am saying is that I think the Kirkland station shouldn't be built until the road access infrastructure is complete (urban boulevard, proper service road and overpass)

[budgebandit]

The new boulevard, parking lot and interchange absolutely need to be built BEFORE the REM station... 

 

[vivreenrégion]

Je sais pas si on peut faire la comparaison avec les stations à Laval, mais la station Cartier est un succès sur toute la ligne et il n'y a pas de stationnement à étages.

[montrealgoalie]

23 minutes ago, vivreenrégion said:

Je sais pas si on peut faire la comparaison avec les stations à Laval, mais la station Cartier est un succès sur toute la ligne et il n'y a pas de stationnement à étages.

Dans le west island, si les gens ne peuvent pas se stationner, ils n'iront pas. Ca prends absolument du stationnement.

[vivreenrégion]

il y a 11 minutes, montrealgoalie a dit :

Dans le west island, si les gens ne peuvent pas se stationner, ils n'iront pas. Ca prends absolument du stationnement.

les bus amènent plus de monde que les parking. Si les West Islandersiens n'utilisent pas le bus, alors ils seront à blâmer, le projet ne dépend pas d'eux. Ils ont leur ligne, je ne crois pas qu'ils en auront une autre pour les 50 prochaines années. Maintenant toutes les autres phases seront pour les secteurs centraux entre la Rive-Sud et la Rive-Nord.