montréal REM (ligne A) - Discussion générale

[mk.ndrsn]

L’enfouissement des lignes à haute tension est estimé à combien au Québec en 2020? Plusieurs emprises d’Hydro seraient excellentes pour des prolongements du REM. Est-ce que le coût au km d’un métro en surface avec un enfouissement de lignes haute tension demeure plus bas qu’un métro souterrain?

[reecemartin]

On 7/6/2020 at 9:37 AM, Chuck-A said:

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Although this video of Reece Martin on the Burquitlam station (from the Evergreen Extension  of the Vancouver SkyTrain, ... built just like the REM by SNC-Lavalin) will only partially represent what some REM stations might look like, j like the look  I see. There are several aspects that we will see at stations in Montreal (including the glass walls and the wooden ceiling).

Especially since we will also have the advantage of having stations equipped with landing doors in order to be air-conditioned (heated) in winter. 

 

The miracle with the Evergreen Line is station cost, this station cost only around $30 Million despite being a full high platform metro station.

[SameGuy]

25 minutes ago, reecemartin said:

The miracle with the Evergreen Line is station cost, this station cost only around $30 Million despite being a full high platform metro station.

This notion also gives hope for future infill stations, both aerial (Bassin, Marc-Cantin) and ground-level (Christmas Park, Alexander).

[p_xavier]

8 hours ago, SameGuy said:

This notion also gives hope for future infill stations, both aerial (Bassin, Marc-Cantin) and ground-level (Christmas Park, Alexander).

With much of the financing coming from the private sector it can be reality, such as the future Capstan station on the Canada Line. 

[mk.ndrsn]

Il y a 13 heures, SameGuy a dit :

This notion also gives hope for future infill stations, both aerial (Bassin, Marc-Cantin) and ground-level (Christmas Park, Alexander).

Why Alexander? And Christmas Park???

[SameGuy]

Both areas’ 1 km catchments are more densely populated than that of every station west of BF except Sunnybrooke. Alexander used to have a station (À-Ma-Baie). There is also potential for even more TOD around both. But they’re spending bajillions for a station on Île-Bigras, for what? Fewer than 1000 residents, low density and no room for development, while the Ste-Dorothée station is  700 meters away. It’s not like they’re simply repurposing the old Bigras station; it’s new. À-Ma-Baie and Parc-Noël should have been considered before even thinking to put a station on Bigras.

[Chuck-A]

Pour ceux et celles qui se demandaient quelles essences de bois étaient utilisées pour les plafonds des stations, l'équipe du REM a donné un peu plus de détails en réponse à un commentaire sur leur page FB :

https://www.facebook.com/REMgrandmtl/

[mk.ndrsn]

Il y a 1 heure, SameGuy a dit :

Both areas’ 1 km catchments are more densely populated than that of every station west of BF except Sunnybrooke. Alexander used to have a station (À-Ma-Baie). There is also potential for even more TOD around both. But they’re spending bajillions for a station on Île-Bigras, for what? Fewer than 1000 residents, low density and no room for development, while the Ste-Dorothée station is  700 meters away. It’s not like they’re simply repurposing the old Bigras station; it’s new. À-Ma-Baie and Parc-Noël should have been considered before even thinking to put a station on Bigras.

Sure there was a À-Ma-Baie stop a few decades ago, but a) it’s less than 650m from Sunnybrooke, b) It’s “dense” because of Cloverdale, and we’re really just talking about lower medium density here, c) the area is already built and heavily skews on residential, with no really significant point of interest, I just don’t see the TOD potential. I don’t disagree with your criticism of Île-Bigras station, but IB being a questionable investment doesn’t make Alexander a more sound one. I guess we could make the argument of tackling the poverty issue by providing a top tier mass transit option to Cloverdale residents, but than again Sunnybrooke is a 5 to 15 minute walk (even less by bus, options not available to IB residents).

As for Parc-Noel, you’re talking about Cavendish—Toupin? A station on a (soon hope 🤞) major north-south link would make sense, just like another one on Source—Riverdale. A lot more than Alexander anyway.
 

 

[SameGuy]

I’m only guessing here, but I expect the new Pierrefonds-Roxboro station to be quite a bit closer to Gouin (ie about 300m west of where it is now, and away from Commercial) which makes it closer to the buildings at Meighen and the MDUs at boul de Pierrefonds, Pavillon and des Sources/Pl Riviera. Similarly, the 100m long platform at Sunnybrooke will likely be implanted directly at Sunnybrooke, remaining about the same distance from Pfds-Rox it is now. À-Ma-Baie would make use of space just east of Alexander where the old stop was, and doesn’t need the incentive parking of the other two, so it would be around 900m from Sunnybrooke - further apart than Brossard-du Quartier, Griffintown-Centrale-McGill, Canora-VdMR, and just slightly closer together than the rest of the station pairs from BF to A40. Toupin would be about 1300 m from the new BF station.

I’d posit that “Cloverdale” has higher density within a 1 km radius of the Alexander crossing than any other DM branch station west of BF (other than Sunnybrooke), as well as des Sources, Kirkland (for the foreseeable future) and Anse-À-L’Orme. The termini are obviously intended to serve as park-and-ride nodes, but I’d offer that as a light metro with two- or four-car trains, that we shouldn’t discount the need for stations based solely on the distances between them but rather the needs of the the communities along the branches. Should we abandon every second stop on the Green Line through downtown because they are so close together?

And yes, Toupin/Keller. It’s in a reasonably built-up neighbourhood, and a short walk from the centre of the dense Bois-Franc/Nouveau-St-Laurent development. The 164 and 170 would be busy indeed.

[Chuck-A]

il y a 32 minutes, MHV17 a dit :

Bonsoir, est-ce-que qu'il y a un fil de discussion pour la station Deux-Montagnes?

Bien sûr. Ici:

https://mtlurb.com/topic/16218-station-deux-montagnes-discussion

Il existe un fil de discussion pour chacune des 26 stations et pour les ouvrages d'art des 4 antennes du REM, ainsi que sur divers sujets reliés au projet (ex.: matériel roulant, tunnel du Mont-Royal, potentiels prolongements, etc.).