montréal REM (ligne A) - Discussion générale

[Corbeau]

il y a 8 minutes, Rocco a dit :

Yup, un business de maximiser les profits. Quand même mieux que la business de maximiser les avantages pour des syndiqués et de minimiser les efforts de ceux-ci.

Aussi, on peut avoir des bus qui font la navette.

 

il y a 10 minutes, Rocco a dit :

Yup, un business de maximiser les profits. Quand même mieux que la business de maximiser les avantages pour des syndiqués et de minimiser les efforts de ceux-ci.

C'est pour ça qu'il faut remplacer la STM par une RATP.

[mtlurb]

il y a 30 minutes, Rocco a dit :

Yup, un business de maximiser les profits. Quand même mieux que la business de maximiser les avantages pour des syndiqués et de minimiser les efforts de ceux-ci.

Les profits qui vont dans ton fonds de pension mon vieux rocco agé. Rigueur 🤣

[Morse Attack]

5 hours ago, Rocco said:

⬆️ Ils ont ben trop peur que tous les usagers débarquent à Bois-Franc et prennent le métro sur la ligne orange plutôt que de continuer sur le REM dans le tunnel. Tsé, sont payés au KM parcouru.. its not for the user, its for the profitability. Why did they put the Fairview station so damn far from the Fairview right in front of an abandonned wooden area? They just want the $ from the redevelopment. Who cares if one has to walk 15 mins to get to the Fairview. 

Why serve current residents that chose to live in a far off suburb, when you can create massive amounts of housing for people who will choose to live at walking distance from a metro?

More people at proximity  = more ridership.

More ridership = greater cost-benefit ratio for the public.

Im sorry, but if you chose to live in a far off suburb, I don’t see why more provincial tax money should be invested just to increase the value of your bungalow.

CDPQ made a king call on this one.

[Corbeau]

il y a 38 minutes, Morse Attack a dit :

Why serve current residents that chose to live in a far off suburb, when you can create massive amounts of housing for people who will choose to live at walking distance from a metro?

More people at proximity  = more ridership.

More ridership = greater cost-benefit ratio for the public.

Im sorry, but if you chose to live in a far off suburb, I don’t see why more provincial tax money should be invested just to increase the value of your bungalow.

CDPQ made a king call on this one.

Does Bois-Franc count as a far off suburb?

But also, the government should have extended the orange line to Gouin long ago (Gouin because there's a hospital). The Caisse can't prevent the government from doing it, it's not in the contract.

[Morse Attack]

1 hour ago, Corbeau said:

Does Bois-Franc count as a far off suburb?

But also, the government should have extended the orange line to Gouin long ago (Gouin because there's a hospital). The Caisse can't prevent the government from doing it, it's not in the contract.

True Bois Franc is not.

I don’t know why, but I was thinking we were talking about West Island.

Bois Franc people are super rich though. They will survive without the REM… 😅

[ToxiK]

Il y a 7 heures, Morse Attack a dit :

Im sorry, but if you chose to live in a far off suburb, I don’t see why more provincial tax money should be invested just to increase the value of your bungalow.

Maybe people "chose" to live in suburbs because housing is to expensive in Montréal.  Too expensive and insufficient for dogmatic reasons (not higher than Mount-Royal, "cadre bâti", social acceptance, human scale, "we want parks", "we hate capitalist promoters", etc...).  There would never be enough supply in Montréal alone for the whole metropolitan population, even with more sensible density.  We need to limit the inconvenience of sprawling on the environnement by having good public transit so people don't always need a car and they'll only need one (and it will be an electric car).

[TurboLed]

Il y a 11 heures, Morse Attack a dit :

Bois Franc people are super rich though. They will survive without the REM… 

Actually Bois-Francs station is quite far from the actual "Bois-Francs" neighborhood. It's at the corner of VSL and a very poor part of Cartierville.

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[Morse Attack]

10 hours ago, ToxiK said:

Maybe people "chose" to live in suburbs because housing is to expensive in Montréal.  Too expensive and insufficient for dogmatic reasons (not higher than Mount-Royal, "cadre bâti", social acceptance, human scale, "we want parks", "we hate capitalist promoters", etc...).  There would never be enough supply in Montréal alone for the whole metropolitan population, even with more sensible density.  We need to limit the inconvenience of sprawling on the environnement by having good public transit so people don't always need a car and they'll only need one (and it will be an electric car).

Yes supply constraints are horrible in this city, which means people opt for smaller homes.

If they choose the suburbs it’s because they are making a trade-off between more space (backyard, large house) in échange for longer travel times.

Now, I sympathize with people choosing multi-family housing in the south shore, Vaudreuil, Terrebonne, etc. 

But singly-family homes in the west island, not so much. 

H-1 residential zoning is the penultimate supply constraint.

 

[Morse Attack]

5 hours ago, TurboLed said:

Actually Bois-Francs station is quite far from the actual "Bois-Francs" neighborhood. It's at the corner of VSL and a very poor part of Cartierville.

Thats exactly what Im saying. Rich people will be fine without the station next door.

At this distance they can easily take a bus.

 

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[Morse Attack]

18 hours ago, Corbeau said:

Does Bois-Franc count as a far off suburb?

But also, the government should have extended the orange line to Gouin long ago (Gouin because there's a hospital). The Caisse can't prevent the government from doing it, it's not in the contract.

Fairview station.

that was what I was reacting too when I said far out suburbs.