Consultation publique sur la protection du mont-royal

[MTLskyline]

Protection du mont Royal

La Ville a un plan

 

La Ville de Montréal doit déposer son plan de protection du mont Royal lors de la prochaine réunion du conseil municipal.

 

L'administration du maire Gérald Tremblay entend déposer en même temps un règlement de contrôle intérimaire. Il s'agit d'une précaution pour éviter que des promoteurs immobiliers ne profitent de la réglementation actuelle pour réaliser des travaux non conformes au nouveau plan, avant son adoption.

 

Le plan de protection élaboré par la Ville vise en premier lieu la protection des milieux naturels, des paysages et du patrimoine immobilier du mont Royal.

Ski de fond sur le Mont-Royal

 

La Ville entend aussi protéger les vues depuis et de la montagne. « S'il est permis de construire un bâtiment de 50 mètres de hauteur, mais qu'à partir de 40 mètres on commence affecte la vue vers la montagne, on va pouvoir demander au promoteur de déposer des études pour tendre à préserver cette vue-là », explique Céline Topp, Directrice au Service de mise en valeur du territoire et du patrimoine.

 

Pour André Porlier, du conseil régional en environnement de Montréal, ce plan de protection est un pas dans la bonne direction, mais les « vraies mesures » pour protéger le mont Royal se font toujours attendre.

 

Le plan de protection du mont Royal doit encore franchir plusieurs étapes, dont une consultation, avant l'adoption de sa version finale, avant la fin de l'année.

 

Je suis pour la protection du Mont-Royal, mais ca semble comme ca va être difficile de construire plus de 40-50 mètres dans cette ville.

 

http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2008/01/24/012-plan-protection-mt-royal_n.shtml

[ErickMontreal]

Je suis pour la protection du Mont-Royal, mais ca semble comme ca va être difficile de construire plus de 40-50 mètres dans cette ville.

 

http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2008/01/24/012-plan-protection-mt-royal_n.shtml

 

Je suis d`accords avec toi, en plus que ca construit déjà moins haut à Mtl. En fait, 40 mètres, pour un édifice à bureau, ceci équivaut à combien d`étages ?

[MTLskyline]

Je pense que c'est pas beaucoup plus qu'un dizaine d'étages:

 

Examples: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=edificelasauvegarde-montreal-canada

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=le1625chabanel-montreal-canada

[ErickMontreal]

Mont-Royal preservation plan calls for building height limits

 

Conservationists in Montreal say the city's new plan to protect Mont-Royal park — which includes measures to protect greenspace and restrict nearby development — is a good start to preserving the landmark's natural beauty, but there is still more to be done.

 

The city of Montreal's Mont-Royal plan, unveiled Thursday, provides a solid framework for efforts to protect the large greenspace located in the middle of the island, said conservationist group Friends of the Mountain.

 

But there's still a need for stricter rules regarding current installations on the mountain, said Friends spokeswoman Sylvie Guilbeault.

 

"This document is not complete. What will be important to do is be sure that all the studies and experts and the city will continue to be involved in the process [of consultation]," she said at a press conference Thursday.

 

The city released its Mont-Royal park plan on Thursday before submitting it to council next week. It includes measures to protect greenspace that covers an estimated 57 per cent of the park's acreage, and imposes limits on construction projects on the mountain, and height restrictions for surrounding real estate.

 

The plan also foresees preserving a view of the mountain from 104 different locations in the greater city. If a developer wants to build downtown the project will be subject to height restrictions if the mountain's view is affected.

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The city is committed to caring for Mont-Royal, which is the island's "green lung" and a major attraction for many, said Helen Fotopolous, the Plateau Mont-Royal borough mayor and member of Montreal's executive committee.

 

"You lose the mountain, you lost one of the element that attract business and development to the city," she said at a press conference.

 

The plan will be debated at City Hall next week.

 

About five million people visit the mountain every year, according to municipal figures.

[Habsfan]

Je suis d`accords avec toi, en plus que ca construit déjà moins haut à Mtl. En fait, 40 mètres, pour un édifice à bureau, ceci équivaut à combien d`étages ?

 

 

10 étages!

[ErickMontreal]

Je pense que c'est pas beaucoup plus qu'un dizaine d'étages:

 

Examples: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=edificelasauvegarde-montreal-canada

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=le1625chabanel-montreal-canada

 

10 étages!

 

Merci, personnellement, je pense qu`ils poussent fort cette fois...

[Habsfan]

You lose the mountain, you lost one of the element that attract business and development to the city," she said at a press conference.

 

Dumb bitch! MONEY attracts people to the city. MONEY attracts businesses to the city. Not a fvcking mountain!

 

 

The city of Montreal's Mont-Royal plan, unveiled Thursday, provides a solid framework for efforts to protect the large greenspace located in the middle of the island, said conservationist group Friends of the Mountain.

 

It includes measures to protect greenspace that covers an estimated 57 per cent of the park's acreage, and imposes limits on construction projects on the mountain

 

I completely agree that we need to protect the Mountain from developpers. I agree that we need to preserve the parks and other historical buildings located on the mountain(and on the flanks of the mountain).

 

and height restrictions for surrounding real estate

 

The plan also foresees preserving a view of the mountain from 104 different locations in the greater city. If a developer wants to build downtown the project will be subject to height restrictions if the mountain's view is affected.

 

Well, this definately kills any chance of seing anything of some relative height ever being built in this city. Having a very strict height limit in this city wasn't enough, now they doubled the number of "protected" views of the fvcking hill!

 

It will become so damn difficult for promoters to be able to build something in downtown, that they will simply move to somewhere else and build elsewhere.

 

These douchebags over at les Amis de la Montagne and Héritage Montréal think that Montreal will always attract people. Well maybe these idiots should wake up and smell the coffee and leave their Plateau or NDG appartments once in a while and check out what's going out in the suburbs. If they weren't so god damned condescending and arrogant, maybe they'd notice that for the 5th year in a row, the island of Montreal lost a shitload of people to its suburbs and the trend doesn't seem to want to slow down. People are less inclined to spend hours of their days in traffic just to get to work downtown and more and more people just find themselves jobs in the suburbs.

 

Go ahead Bumbaru, keep on making it more and more difficult for developpers to get something done in this city. It'll be harder for them to attract buyers and instead of wasting their time and hard work, on the Island, they'll go to Laval or the South Shore, where by-laws are nowhere nearly as strict and developers are encouraged to build!

 

FVCK!!! THESE ASSHOLES PISS ME OFF! :banghead:

[internationalx]

I am almost without words. Montreal already is behind pretty much every other major city in terms of real estate development. We have entire city blocks downtown that look like Chernobyl. I guess we can expect them to stay that way for a very long time. While I think all of us want to preserve our old buildings, not building new ones leaves the question: what kind of heritage are we going to leave future generations. Can you imagine what they will say in 150 years from now?? They will say that we didn't leave them any heritage. Clearly certain people simply want to protect Montreal as if it were an ancient artifact. Well, I'm sorry, but I don't want to live an a museum. When you travel around the world to other cities, you look at all the exciting architecture and buildings going up and you see how it makes these cities pulse.

 

The unintended consequence of these restrictions will also mean poor quality architecture and materials. It simply doesn't pay to build a 4-10 storey building; it makes more money as a surface parking lot. Also, height gives a sense of grandeur to a city. This is not good.

[yarabundi]

Je voudrais simplement faire valoir ici que c'est aux Montréalais et aux Montréalais seuls qu'il incombe de décider ce qu'ils veulent faire ou ne pas faire de leur ville. Les banlieusards (et il y en a quelques-uns ici : je les respecte mais j'aimerais tout de même leur rappeler qu'ils n'ont pas voix au chapitre) peuvent bien dire ce qu'ils voudront, il se trouve des Montréalais pour être d'accord avec cette initiative de la Ville -dont moi !!

Cela étant dit, la vue sur le Mont-Royal à partir du centre-ville est déjà passablement obstruée -pour ne pas dire presque complètement. S'il reste encore une poignée de perspectives qui peuvent être protégées, eh bien qu'il en soit ainsi. Selon moi, il reste de très nombreux terrains qui sont disponibles qui permettent de construire en hauteur. Je crois qu'on fait ici une tempête dans un verre d'eau.

Habsfan : "the fucking hill" is very precious to the people that actually live on this city !! If people want to leave Montréal, find a job in the suburb, so be it. There will be less traffic coming in and out and the air we breath will be more pure !!

Washington and Ottawa (just to name two) both have heights limits and that do not reduce their grandeur !!

You are thinking about this city developpement through and only through the lenses of capitalism. In years from now, when other cities will suffocate because of too much density, Montréal will be an example of what other cities should have done.

[Habsfan]

Habsfan : "the fucking hill" is very precious to the people that actually live on this city !!

 

Je suis d'Accord, comme que j'ai mentionné plus tôt dans mon commentaire. Protéger la montange, ses flancs, les parcs les édifices historiques sur le Mont-Royal, sont tous de très bon points. Ce qui me fait chier ce sont les nouvelles mesures pour empecher le développement du centre-ville et ses environs.

 

On dirait que ces groupes de pressions préfère voir des gros stationnemetn vides en ville que de voir du nouveau développement.

 

Je suis entièrement d'accord avec internationalx. Il apporte de très bons points!