ouest-de-lîle Station YUL-Aéroport-Montréal-Trudeau - Discussion

[SameGuy]

À 20M c’est déjà serré. Le projet d’agrandissement au complet (y compris les nouvelles jetées et aires de manœuvre) augmentera la capacité au delà des 30M.

[andre md]

1 hour ago, JB667 said:

Ce que je me demande cependant , quelle est la capacité maximale d'agrandissement de YUL ? On sait tous que le traffic aérien ne reprendra pas de sitôt et disons qu'on est optimistes et qu'on revient à 20 000 000 de passagers par année en 2025 , pendant combien de temps l'aéroport peut-il supporter une augmentation constante jusqu'à qu'il n'y aie plus de place pour agrandir les infrastructures ?

L'aeroport de Lisbonne a un terminal un peu plus grand que YUL et il y a eu 31 milions de passager en 2019. 

Nombres de portes d'embarquement  des deux terminals de lisbonne est de 62. 

Yul  si je ne me trompe compte 65 portes d'embarquement.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbon_Airport

 

[SameGuy]

The difference is aircraft movements. Without a breakdown of the data, we can’t be exact about the size of aircraft, but Montreal handles many more small and regional aircraft than Lisbon: 11 million fewer passengers in 2019, but 20,000 more aircraft movements. A good number of the gates at Dorval cannot accommodate anything larger than a 76-seat regional jet or turboprop (10 at the Aéroquai, four at domestic, and three at the end of the transborder jetty), and only relatively few gates can handle wide-body jets and heavies (20 in all).

[andre md]

1 hour ago, SameGuy said:

The difference is aircraft movements. Without a breakdown of the data, we can’t be exact about the size of aircraft, but Montreal handles many more small and regional aircraft than Lisbon: 11 million fewer passengers in 2019, but 20,000 more aircraft movements. A good number of the gates at Dorval cannot accommodate anything larger than a 76-seat regional jet or turboprop (10 at the Aéroquai, four at domestic, and three at the end of the transborder jetty), and only relatively few gates can handle wide-body jets and heavies (20 in all).

Only 20 gate for wide body at YUL really??

266 000 aircraft movement at Yul in 2019 versus 217 000 movement at Lisbonne. 49 000 movement more for YUL. 

Around 50% more pax at Lisbonne.

Have been twice at lisbon airport and frankly it's not really that much bigger than YUL.

 

[Spiter_01]

1 hour ago, andre md said:

Only 20 gate for wide body at YUL really??

266 000 aircraft movement at Yul in 2019 versus 217 000 movement at Lisbonne. 49 000 movement more for YUL. 

Around 50% more pax at Lisbonne.

Have been twice at lisbon airport and frankly it's not really that much bigger than YUL.

 

Low-cost airlines, Wizz, Ryan Air, EasyJet all fly out of Lisbon instead of the typical secondary regional airport. 

[danny12345]

On 2021-03-07 at 2:43 PM, Rocco said:

Trudeau a fait honneur à son père! Laisser PET sans connection, c'était impensable. Je pourrai donc partir du boul Robert-Bourassa, prendre la station Bernard-Landry, croiser le boul René-Lévesque et arriver à Pierre-Elliott-Trudeau en quelques minutes. J'aurai presque l'impression de vivre les tractations des référendums en différé! Est-y pas belle la vie?

Il manque une patente nommée Jean Chrétien

2 hours ago, andre md said:

Only 20 gate for wide body at YUL really??

266 000 aircraft movement at Yul in 2019 versus 217 000 movement at Lisbonne. 49 000 movement more for YUL. 

Around 50% more pax at Lisbonne.

Have been twice at lisbon airport and frankly it's not really that much bigger than YUL.

 

266 000 movement is for the whole ADM, thus YUL + YMX.  YUL alone is 236 000, which also includes significant general aviation & charters.

source: https://www.admtl.com/sites/default/files/2021/ADM_Statsdet_2020_EN.pdf

[andre md]

42 minutes ago, danny12345 said:

Il manque une patente nommée Jean Chrétien

266 000 movement is for the whole ADM, thus YUL + YMX.  YUL alone is 236 000, which also includes significant general aviation & charters.

source: https://www.admtl.com/sites/default/files/2021/ADM_Statsdet_2020_EN.pdf

it's only 9-10% more movement versus Lisbon.  Then i guess YUL could have more passengers without so much difficulties. 

 

[SameGuy]

5 hours ago, andre md said:

Only 20 gate for wide body at YUL really??

266 000 aircraft movement at Yul in 2019 versus 217 000 movement at Lisbonne. 49 000 movement more for YUL. 

Around 50% more pax at Lisbonne.

Have been twice at lisbon airport and frankly it's not really that much bigger than YUL.

 

Really really. 🙂 Of the 18 gates on the US side, three (87-88-89) are RJ- or prop-only, and two inside the horseshoe may accommodate up to 767-300 or A300/310, the rest narrow-body or RJ only. 15 of the international gates may greet wide-bodies (including two that accept the now-doomed A380), while three more on the domestic end are often used by Air Canada wide-bodies. There are now eight Code E (large wide-body) capable outfield hard stands serviced by the Cobus 3000 buses to and from the international jetty’s bus gate, and there are several more hard stands that can be serviced by PTVs from two international gates.

2 hours ago, andre md said:

it's only 9-10% more movement versus Lisbon.  Then i guess YUL could have more passengers without so much difficulties. 

 

Not much difficulty at all, just $2.5 Billion and a decade of construction.

[Chris1989]

Reminder of the expansion plan for YUL. Domestic will be expanded to accommodate larger aircraft, slight expansion of transborder and of course the massive expansion of international jetty. And look at all those new spots for parking planes.

[Rocco]

2 minutes ago, Chris1989 said:

Reminder of the expansion plan for YUL. Domestic will be expanded to accommodate larger aircraft, slight expansion of transborder and of course the massive expansion of international jetty. And look at all those new spots for parking planes.

Final completion date?