Ouvrages d'art - Antenne Rive-Sud

[Megafolie]

Le 2019-11-19 à 10:28, ScarletCoral a dit :

• Déplacement des câbles caténaires
• Retrait des portiques existants au-dessus des voies ferrées

Je confirme que les caténaires et les portiques ont été retirés cette semaine, entre le viaduc de la commune et le canal Lachine. 👍🏼

[Chuck-A]

Il y a 19 heures, Chuck-A a dit :

Bien qu'on pouvait s'y attendre en raison des travaux d'excavation du REM dans ce secteur, une 2e découverte archéologique majeure datant du 19e siècle vient d'être réalisée en quelques jours à Montréal... (après celle faite près du Pont Jacques-Cartier et partagée ici par @IluvMTL). 

Montreal archeologists find remains of 19th century Irish famine victims
The bone fragments were discovered last week by archeologists digging along the path of a future light-rail system in southwestern Montreal.

THE CANADIAN PRESS  |  Updated: November 27, 2019

Victor Boyle and Fergus Keyes, left, at the Black Rock in Montreal, on Thursday, May 18, 2017. Boyle says the new discovery is a vindication for those have long insisted the site could be the biggest Irish gravesite outside Ireland. DAVE SIDAWAY / MONTREAL GAZETTE FILE PHOTO

MONTREAL — Archeologists digging at the site of a future light-rail station unearthed a piece of Montreal history last week when they uncovered what is believed to have been a cemetery for Irish immigrants who died after fleeing famine in 1847.

The bone fragments of between 12 and 15 people were discovered in a spot about 2.3 metres in diameter that will eventually hold one of the light-rail system’s pillars, according to Elizabeth Boivin, a spokeswoman for the Reseau express metropolitain, or REM.

She said more remains could be discovered in the next few days, since archeologists don’t yet know how deep the graves lie.

While the bones have been sent to a laboratory for analysis, she said archeologists believe they belong to some of the estimated 6,000 immigrants who came across the ocean on overcrowded ships only to die of typhus in fever sheds erected on the banks of the St. Lawrence.

“It was in the context of an epidemic, so there was a public health problem, and the bodies were stacked up, put into coffins, but it wasn’t an organized cemetery as we know it,” she said in a phone interview.

She said pieces of wood, presumably from coffins, have been found with the bones. The remains are in good condition, she said.

Boivin said the REM was aware of the possibility of a graveyard on the site and hosted a blessing in June prior to beginning the dig.

Because the area is bound by railway tracks, archeologists had to work in a confined, cylindrical hole in the ground, where they were lowered by crane. She said the remains will not affect the work on the train system.

The sombre discovery was nevertheless an exciting one for members of Montreal’s Irish community, who have been lobbying for a decade for a memorial park to honour the 1847 famine victims.

Victor Boyle, the co-president of the Irish Memorial Park Foundation, said it lends credence to the historians who say the site could be the biggest Irish grave site outside Ireland.

“It’s a vindication, and it brings back to life the story of 1847, when 6,000 people lost their lives,” he said.

He said other digs carried out in other locations near the site in recent years turned up artifacts but no remains.

The bodies were found near the Black Rock, a three-metre-tall boulder erected by railway workers in 1859 that is believed to be the first-ever memorial to victims of the potato famine.

Fergus Keyes, who co-leads the park effort with Boyle, says an estimated 100,000 people came to Canada in the summer of 1847 aboard overcrowded vessels known as “coffin ships.”

Some 70,000 of them — many sick and dying — landed in Montreal, overwhelming a city whose population numbered only 50,000.

“By September and October of 1847, we know they were running out of coffins and started trenching people,” Keyes said in a phone interview. “At the end of the day, they were digging a trench and throwing in 30 bodies here, there and elsewhere.”

Keyes and Boyle say the project to create a memorial park at the site will be a tribute to both the Irish victims and all the Montrealers risked their lives to nurse and care for them. That includes French-Catholic priests and nuns, British military, Montrealers who adopted orphaned children, First Nations who contributed food and money and Montreal’s mayor at the time, John Easton Mills, who died of typhus after volunteering to nurse the sick.

In a time of polarizing debates over immigration, Keyes says it’s important to remember the response to a group he describes as “the worst immigrants you can imagine.”

“They were poor, they were hungry, they didn’t speak the language, for the most part they were illiterate and on top they brought disease,” he said. “And a bunch of Montrealers of every language and culture went to help them, provide food, provide care, provide comfort.”

Keyes and Boyle hope the bones at the site may provide clues such as the age, gender and cause of death of the victims — and maybe even DNA that could link them to descendants. Eventually, though, they believe it would be best that they be reburied at the site.

“It seems to me unseemly that you would take bones that have been there for more than 100 years and move them somewhere else,” Boyle said.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Nov 27, 2019

https://montrealgazette.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/montreal-archeologists-find-remains-of-19th-century-irish-famine-victims/wcm/59270255-1a55-4be4-b616-96948b66018e

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Dans un même ordre d'idée, voici un reportage vidéo de Global News, apparaissant dans un article citant la même nouvelle que The Gazette.

Commemorative Park planned for Black Rock site :
https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/1428065347590/?jwsource=cl

 

 

Il y a 16 heures, ScarletCoral a dit :

La même nouvelle de La Presse Canadienne en français.

La Presse Canadienne ne semble pas au courant que la station  est dans Griffintown

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/201911/27/01-5251487-des-restes-de-refugies-irlandais-trouves-sur-le-site-du-rem.php

« Des archéologues menant des fouilles sur le site d'une future station du train léger sur rail ont déterré un morceau de l'histoire de Montréal, la semaine dernière, en découvrant ce qui aurait possiblement été un cimetière pour les immigrants irlandais décédés après avoir fui la famine en 1847.

Des fragments d'os d'environ 12 à 15 personnes ont été découverts dans une petite zone d'environ 2,3 mètres de diamètre qui accueillera éventuellement l'un des piliers du Réseau express métropolitain (REM), indique la porte-parole Élizabeth Boivin.

L'endroit en question se trouve dans le secteur de Pointe-Saint-Charles, aux environs du Monument irlandais de Montréal.»

 

[Chuck-A]

Le 2019-11-28 à 11:50, Chuck-A a dit :

  Le 2019-11-27 à 18:55, ScarletCoral a dit :

La même nouvelle de La Presse Canadienne en français.

La Presse Canadienne ne semble pas au courant que la station  est dans Griffintown

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/201911/27/01-5251487-des-restes-de-refugies-irlandais-trouves-sur-le-site-du-rem.php

« Des archéologues menant des fouilles sur le site d'une future station du train léger sur rail ont déterré un morceau de l'histoire de Montréal, la semaine dernière, en découvrant ce qui aurait possiblement été un cimetière pour les immigrants irlandais décédés après avoir fui la famine en 1847.

Des fragments d'os d'environ 12 à 15 personnes ont été découverts dans une petite zone d'environ 2,3 mètres de diamètre qui accueillera éventuellement l'un des piliers du Réseau express métropolitain (REM), indique la porte-parole Élizabeth Boivin.

L'endroit en question se trouve dans le secteur de Pointe-Saint-Charles, aux environs du Monument irlandais de Montréal.»

 

En savoir plus  

 

Le 2019-11-28 à 11:50, Chuck-A a dit :

 

Un autre article traitant de cette nouvelle, mais avec quelques photos inédites de ces fouilles archéologiques... dont une, à l'intérieur d'un trou qui contiendra un pilier de la structure aérienne du REM.

 

Evidence of mass Irish grave site unearthed during REM light-rail dig
Some 6,000 people died of typhus in the 1840s, and many were buried in unmarked graves

Montreal  |  CBC News · Posted: Nov 30, 2019 7:00 AM ET | Last Updated: November 30

Archeologists have been sifting through the dirt by hand, lowered into a tube-shaped hole in a basket. The hole will eventually house a pillar to support elevated train tracks. (REM)

During work on a future light-rail station in Pointe-Saint-Charles, archeologists have discovered what could be the bones of Irish immigrants who died after fleeing the Great Famine more than a century-and-a-half ago.

The dig site is a stone's throw from the Black Rock — a  three-metre-tall boulder that, erected in 1859, marks the site where some 6,000 people are buried.

Workers on the Réseau express métropolitain (REM) are digging a hole to to install a concrete support pillar for its trains.

As part of the survey, they sent in a team of archeologists who discovered the bones of 12 to 15 people.

Archeologists were lowered by crane into the ground and have been working to excavate the remains by hand.

Bone fragments have been discovered belonging to at least 15 different people believed to have died during the typhus epidemic in the mid-1800s. (REM)

In 1847 some 6,000 Irish famine refugees died of typhus in Pointe-Saint-Charles. It's believed they were buried in a mass grave.

"We made sure that the work here would be done with respect," said Elizabeth Boivin, the REM's deputy director of environment.

Wood that may be from coffins has also been unearthed in the dig.

The yellow, cylindrical basket fits perfectly into the hole so experts can carefully comb through the dirt in search of bone fragments and other artifacts. (CBC)

Before crews began digging in June, a ceremony was held in collaboration with the Irish community.

Largest Irish grave site outside of Ireland

Because the dig affects less than one per cent of the site, the project will leave many other graves undisturbed, Boivin said.

Still, finding evidence of as many as 15 bodies in such a small area demonstrates just how many people are buried there — giving credence to the claim that it is the largest Irish grave site outside of Ireland, said Fergus Keyes.

He has been co-leading a push for a memorial park near the site for the last decade. 

Fergus Keyes has been pushing for a memorial park near the Black Rock site for a decade. ( Simon Nakonechny/CBC)

"We always knew that, in that area, 6,000 Irish were buried," Keyes said. "Nobody has ever dug into that earth since the mid-1800s, as far as we know."

The hope is that lab tests will provide more information about who they were, how they lived and how they died, Keyes said.

Then they'll be put back close to where they where found.

"We will re-inter them in a very nice, proper ceremony at some point near the Black Rock," he said. 

With files from Simon Nakonechny

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/irish-grave-site-montreal-black-rock-1.5379413

[ScarletCoral]

il y a 9 minutes, Chuck-A a dit :

Evidence of mass Irish grave site unearthed during REM light-rail dig

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/irish-grave-site-montreal-black-rock-1.5379413

Vidéo sur la page FB de CBC Montréal

 

[louisleonardo]

Ces découvertes donnent encore plus de poids à la proposition d'une station nommée en l'honneur de la communauté irlandaise.

[Megafolie]

3 décembre 

[ScarletCoral]

Il y a 10 heures, louisleonardo a dit :

Ces découvertes donnent encore plus de poids à la proposition d'une station nommée en l'honneur de la communauté irlandaise.

Si la toponymie pour les stations du REM est en lien avec la géographie comme c'est le cas avec les stations de métro et que la 2e station du bassin Peel est dans ce coin-là, il y a la rue des Irlandais près du Black Rock.

 

 

[Miska]

La démolition d’une partie de la structure par dessus De la Commune a commencé 

 

[Megafolie]

4 décembre 

Travaux préparatoires sur le viaduc de la commune

 

[Fortier]

Il y a 22 heures, ScarletCoral a dit :

Si la toponymie pour les stations du REM est en lien avec la géographie comme c'est le cas avec les stations de métro et que la 2e station du bassin Peel est dans ce coin-là, il y a la rue des Irlandais près du Black Rock.

 

 

Je pense qu'une station nommée « Saint-Patrick » ou encore mieux « des Irlandais » dans ce secteur ferait grandement consensus.