griffintown Station Griffintown – Bernard-Landry - Discussion

[p_xavier]

18 minutes ago, MontréalMartin said:

Et le mot Griffintown lui, il ne réfère pas à un lieu ??? La station est en plein centre de ce qui était Griffintown.

 

Oui mais pas Bernard Landry. Si la rue aurait changé de nom j'en aurais pas fait de cas. En plus c'est la seule station avec un hommage et un lieu, même si c'était une rue. C'est pas beau.

 

La STM a refusé à plusieurs reprises de changer le nom de stations. Beaudry-Le Village entre autres. Là t'as Bernard Landry et Square Victoria-OACI à cause de pression politique.  Je déteste cet illogisme.

[Blitz]

Ils auraient dû la nommer Jean Charest tient, qui me semble à des origines irlandaise, better a crook than a separatist, amiright??? 

Très hâte de voir la ré-écriture historique dans The Gazette demain.

Je comprends qu'on sature des hommes blancs, c'est pas pour rien qu'une station est nommée Marie Curie.

"Ouin mais elle est blanche"

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[MontréalMartin]

il y a 2 minutes, p_xavier a dit :

Oui mais pas Bernard Landry. Si la rue aurait changé de nom j'en aurais pas fait de cas. En plus c'est la seule station avec un hommage et un lieu, même si c'était une rue. C'est pas beau.

Victoria - OACI c'est très laid à cause de Victoria alors ?

[fmfranck]

il y a 16 minutes, ScarletCoral a dit :

Aussi, il n'y a pas que la communauté irlandaise qui est mécontente... Dans les commentaires, il y en a plusieurs qui demandent d'arrêter de nommer les choses après des « hommes blancs privilégiés », surtout en ces temps de déboulonnage de statues de personnages historiques. Juste « Griffintown » aurait été correct; personne n'aurait chialé

Si on fait un effort conscient d'être plus inclusif dans la toponimie, il faut quand même  prescrire totalement l'utilisation de nom de personnes blanches masculines? On est sérieux là? 🤨

[p_xavier]

6 minutes ago, MontréalMartin said:

Victoria - OACI c'est très laid à cause de Victoria alors ?

OACI c'était pour téter l'organisation de ne pas quitter pour Dubai. Alors oui c'est laid.

2 minutes ago, fmfranck said:

Si on fait un effort conscient d'être plus inclusif dans la toponimie, il faut quand même  prescrire totalement l'utilisation de nom de personnes blanches masculines? On est sérieux là? 🤨

Perso je voulais Mary Griffin, pour le parc, le féminin et l'histoire du personnage coloré qui a vit Montréal.

 

Beaudry, nom du propriétaire du champ qui n'a 0 valeur, j'avais proposé Alys Robi pour ce qu'elle a apporté au Village et son apport international. Toujours mieux qu'un propriétaire cadastral.

[ScarletCoral]

Global et CBC
https://globalnews.ca/news/7093573/montreal-irish-community-upset-griffintown-rem/
 

Montreal’s Irish community upset with city’s plan to name REM station after late premier

BY ALESSIA SIMONA MARATTA GLOBAL NEWS
Posted June 22, 2020 4:45 pm
Updated June 22, 2020 5:02 pm

The City of Montreal unveiled the name for its Griffintown REM station on Monday — Griffintown-Bernard-Landry — leaving some in the Irish community upset.

Monday’s announcement comes as the city’s Irish community has been fighting for months for the light-rail system’s Griffintown station to be called Griffintown only, in tribute to the area’s historic Irish roots.

According to the Quebec Anglophone Heritage Network, the name Griffintown was derived from an Irish woman called Mary Griffin who lived in the neighbourhood, which was mainly populated by Irish immigrants. More than 70,000 refugees left Ireland and crossed the ocean to Montreal in 1847 during the Great Famine.

The city announced its proposal to name the station Griffintown-Bernard-Landry after the late premier Bernard Landry in November, sparking pushback from Montreal’s Irish community.

Members of the community argued that their ancestors built the area and that it would be offensive to name the station after Landry, who they say had no ties to the neighbourhood.

“I certainly don’t pretend to speak for the entire Irish community of Montreal,” said Fergus Keyes, director of the Montreal Irish Monument Park Foundation, “but I can tell you everybody is powerfully disappointed.”

Keyes said the choice made by the city demonstrates an ignorance to history and is an arrogant thing to do.

“Everybody who is a Montrealer realizes that Griffintown is an old Irish community. It has been there for 200 years,” Keyes said.

Donovan King, a tour guide in the city who sits on the board of directors for the Irish Monument Park Foundation, told Global News in December that the city’s proposed name lacked respect for Irish heritage.

The Plante administration defended its choice in November, saying Landry did a lot for Montreal and that it was an appropriate name because Landry wanted to develop the Cité du Multimedia, located in that area.

“The fact that we have the name ‘Griffintown – Bernard Landry’ creates a dialogue that we still need today,” she said.

“But it doesn’t minimize the huge contribution of the Irish community to the city of Montreal,” Plante said.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/rem-griffintown-station-bernard-landry-1.5622376

REM station will be named Griffintown-Bernard Landry, to disappointment of Irish community

Some in Irish community say they are frustrated and angered by the decision

Jennifer Yoon · CBC News · Posted: Jun 22, 2020 6:06 PM ET | Last Updated: 11 minutes ago

 

The Peel Basin station for Montreal's light-rail network will be named Griffintown-Bernard Landry, announced Montreal Mayor Valerie Plante on Monday.

"Both names will be there, and for us it was so important to do so," said Plante. She said the name was a "very strong connection honouring both the historically Irish Griffintown and the Cité du Multimédia.

The station will be located near Peel Street between Ottawa and Willam streets. In front of the station, there will be a park honouring the memory of Mary Griffin, the Irish business from the 19th century whom the neighbourhood the was named after.

Former Quebec premier Bernard Landry, helped create Cité du Multimédia, a neighbourhood meant to attract technology companies to the area when he was finance minister in the 1980s. 

Naming the station after Landry would honour the contribution that he had on that neighbourhood, Plante said.

Plante suggested the name to the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec, which is financing the Réseau express métropolitain (REM) project, in November. All 26 REM stations now have an official name.

"The hyphen is very important in the name, and we're starting with Griffintown," Plante said. 

"The fact that there's one entry on Cité du Multimédia and one in Griffintown, I feel it represents this city so well"

Irish Montrealers unhappy with choice

But Irish Montrealers say they feel left out of the conversation.

"Really frustrated, totally disappointed, a little bit dumbfounded by what she did and, to some extent, a little bit angry about it also," is how Fergus Keyes reacts to the decision. 

He organized a petition in 2018, calling for the REM station to be named after the Irish community, to commemorate their contribution and history in Griffintown and in Montreal.

He said there is no reason to add Landry's name to this location, because Landry did not live or work in the neighbourhood, nor was he elected to represent those living there.

"If it was just Griffintown, it would be acceptable to us," he said.

Keyes says he's not giving up.

"If she thinks it's over, then really she's dreaming in Technicolor," said Keyes. "We refuse to have that station have Mr. Landry's name on it."

 

[p_xavier]

Good, enough tone deaf people at city hall. What's worse is the pretend 2 years community sessions to get feedback. Hypocrites, they already had their choice made and wasted two years, and residents, to get a REM station.  Can't stand the hypocrisy of today's left.

On 2020-05-17 at 11:02 AM, p_xavier said:

 

[SameGuy]

1 hour ago, Blitz said:

Ils auraient dû la nommer Jean Charest tient, qui me semble à des origines irlandaise, better a crook than a separatist, amiright??? 

Très hâte de voir la ré-écriture historique dans The Gazette demain.

Je comprends qu'on sature des hommes blancs, c'est pas pour rien qu'une station est nommée Marie Curie.

"Ouin mais elle est blanche"

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Even though I thought Technoparc was accurate and good enough, Marie-Curie is at least the name of a main street in Technoparc. Blahblah Landry? It’s a stain on our collective history.

[SameGuy]

Listen: I thought René Lévesque, PQ, 101, reférendum or not, was a terrifically important figure in QC history. Was I against the renaming of Dorchester? Sure. But if instead of Robert-Bourassa that University had been renamed after RL, I’d have ZERO problem with the station being named after the man: stations should give an indication of place. Places should be named for important people. Landry doesn’t support any of that.

[SameGuy]

I can’t wait until we start naming sh!t after Trump. It would fit our MO just perfectly.