le-sud-ouest Réaménagement de l'A10/Bonaventure au sud du canal

[KOOL]

il y a 49 minutes, SameGuy a dit :

Maybe if the city is gifted this right-of-way it will become "bikes and buses only,".🙄

Depuis l'avènement du REM il n'y a plus que l'autobus 168 qui fréquente l'autoroute Bonaventure, à raison d'un toutes les 30 minutes. Anyways, je doute fort que Valérie et Justin soient encore là d'ici deux ans. 

[mtlurb]

Ce mini bout d'autoroute est crucial lorsque la 720 est fermée ( oui je fais exprès de l'appeler 720 lol)... La 10 deviens un gros stationnement géant à cause de cela et Dieu sait que la 720 est fermée souvent. Maintenant imaginons que la 10 ait une douzaine de feux non synchronisés et avec priorité aux piétons et cyclistes non existant comme dans le reste de la ville.... que de la joie.

[Casterqc]

Voici le lien officiel du projet.

Il est possible d'y consulter le chantier prévu et des photos.

Il semblerait que 2024 soit consacré à la stabilisation des berges, et que les travaux de reconstruction des voies de circulation se feront 2025-29.....à prévoir donc dans vos déplacements au centre-ville à partir de 2025

https://jacquescartierchamplain.ca/fr/grands-projets/reconfiguration-de-lautoroute-bonaventure/a-propos/

[DJJB]

Valerie has gotten officially bonkers. Try to propose in Paris to put traffic lights on the Boul Périphérique, or the 620 in Toulouse, or the R20 in Brussels, the R2 in Antwerp, the A12 in The Hague or the S116 in Amsterdam-North and the population would just revolt.

I don't understand how our mayor, which wants to be so much like Europe, keeps on thinking that removing highways will remove cars. It won't. It will just cause more traffic congestion, which will cause more impatience, which - in turn - lead to more road rage.

The same is happening already with the pilot projects of the Voie Camillien-Houde, which sees a lot less traffic than the Bonaventure highway, which sees a lot more road rage on Bd Édouard-Montpetit and the surroundings. Commuters are used to leave at X time from home, so if they're no longer getting in time to their destination, it will take a lot of time for them to adjust and that period will come with a lot of frustration and impatience.

Being a metropole comes with accepting that there will be highways and that they're not always pretty. Either put the traffic in a tunnel if she really wants to make a fuzzy-feeling place next to the river. Otherwise: stop complaining.

Modifié 10 mars par DJJB

[Brick]

il y a 8 minutes, DJJB a dit :

Valerie has gotten officially bonkers. Try to propose in Paris to put traffic lights on the Boul Périphérique, or the 620 in Toulouse, or the R20 in Brussels, the R2 in Antwerp, the A12 in The Hague or the S116 in Amsterdam-North and the population would just revolt.

I don't understand how our mayor, which wants to be so much like Europe, keeps on thinking that removing highways will remove cars. It won't. It will just cause more traffic congestion, which will cause more impatience, which - in turn - lead to more road rage.

The same is happening already with the pilot projects of the Voie Camillien-Houde, which sees a lot less traffic than the Bonaventure highway, which sees a lot more road rage on Bd Édouard-Montpetit and the surroundings. Commuters are used to leave at X time from home, so if they're no longer getting in time to their destination, it will take a lot of time for them to adjust and that period will come with a lot of frustration and impatience.

Being a metropole comes with accepting that there will be highways and that they're not always pretty. Either put the traffic in a tunnel if she really wants to make a fuzzy-feeling place next to the river. Otherwise: stop complaining.

Elle est dogmatique et les dogmatistes perdent malheureusement leurs capacités de réflexion. C’est elle qui a été élue. Catastrophique. 

[digitalfunkster]

3 hours ago, DJJB said:

Valerie has gotten officially bonkers. Try to propose in Paris to put traffic lights on the Boul Périphérique, or the 620 in Toulouse, or the R20 in Brussels, the R2 in Antwerp, the A12 in The Hague or the S116 in Amsterdam-North and the population would just revolt.

I don't understand how our mayor, which wants to be so much like Europe, keeps on thinking that removing highways will remove cars. It won't. It will just cause more traffic congestion, which will cause more impatience, which - in turn - lead to more road rage.

The same is happening already with the pilot projects of the Voie Camillien-Houde, which sees a lot less traffic than the Bonaventure highway, which sees a lot more road rage on Bd Édouard-Montpetit and the surroundings. Commuters are used to leave at X time from home, so if they're no longer getting in time to their destination, it will take a lot of time for them to adjust and that period will come with a lot of frustration and impatience.

Being a metropole comes with accepting that there will be highways and that they're not always pretty. Either put the traffic in a tunnel if she really wants to make a fuzzy-feeling place next to the river. Otherwise: stop complaining.

100% don't agree. Making the Bonaventure into a boulevard is a great idea. If only we could demolish the metropolitain and remplace it with a boulevard as well. Dig a tunnel underneath and allow high speed through traffic, but keep the surface as a boulevard for local traffic.

[SameGuy]

How does one propose to finance a Big Dig?

[p_xavier]

Il y a 1 heure, SameGuy a dit :

How does one propose to finance a Big Dig?

Ask the ARTM to study the project and come out with a 80G$ project, with the mayor saying "Je suis enthousiaste!"

[mtlurb]

4 minutes ago, p_xavier said:

Ask the ARTM to study the project and come out with a 80G$ project, with the mayor saying "Je suis enthousiaste!"

L'argent est là.... faut aller la chercher.

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