autoroute 10 Autoroute 10 (Bonaventure - portion au nord du canal (boul. urbain))

[Memphis 22]

Ce tronçon d’autoroute montre des signes de vieillesse et coute cher d’entretient. Un boulevard urbain couterait mois cher d’entretient donc une économie à long terme. Nous y gagneront de l’espace (plus de voies de service) et le secteur sera plus propice au développement. Ainsi le quartier des récollets s’étendra de façon harmonieuse de la rue McGill à la voie ferrée.

 

La voie ferrée quand à elle gagnerait à être mise en valeur.

 

[MtlMan]

Simplement parce qu'une autoroute surelevee qui coupe le vieux-montreal et la cite du multimedia d'un quartier en ebulition ou une poignee de projets voient le jour est completement ridicule et merite d'etre mis a terre.

 

C'est beau etre en amour avec l'asphalte et l'auto, mais faut penser un peu plus intelligemment que les annees 60 dont nous tentons de corriger les erreurs partout dans le monde.

 

Je suis également d'accord. Le projet de jeter cette autoroute à terre demeure une bonne et belle idée pour Mtl. Un catalyseur de redéveloppement de tout le secteur, et qui s'arrimera bien avec les autres développements autour. J'espère franchement que ça ira de l'avant.

[Anderson]

je pense qu'ils n'ont pas le choix. Si l'autoroute est pas jetée à terre, il faudra la remplacer, ce qui va coûter encore plus cher que le présent projet.

[Cyrus]

Je n'ai jamais compris l'argument selon lequel en enlevant l'autoroute on va désenclaver l'est et l'ouest. Il y a pourtant la méga structure des trains du CN qui est juste parallèle et qui va rester là pour toujours anyway! Ça coupe pas le quartier ça?

 

I don't even get how it cuts the neighborhood, the whole reason it is elevated is to not cut the area. Where I live we have a at-grade freeway and it certainly cuts the area and influences development in a certain way, and it is difficult to move around on either side of the highway (much like a river). But out there the street grid is largely preserved under the viaduct of the Bonaventure and the railway, and in any case, removing the viaduct would not allow any more pass-throughs in the railway. Plus, because of the heavy traffic going into town, you would need to cut the intersections perhaps to RIRO or close them and then nobody would be able to cross... maybe they will need to build pedestrian overpasses on top or something stupid. (then! one will have a "enclaved" community, who has the time to run up the stairs and across and down the stairs again...)

 

I just can't understand how we are wanting to promote higher density, but then we want to remove a high-density linear corridor (one that has a high-density / high-capacity vehicle and public transit link on top, and parking facilities underneath) and basically replace it with undeveloped land that serves zero purpose to anyone (ergo, zero density) or potentially, construct oddly formed buildings in that narrow area that would have serious ingress / egress issues due to the boulevard traffic load. It doesn't make any sense logically, and in this thread the supporting points seem to be exclusively focused on ideological hate of elevated urban freeways. The Bonaventure is not a very nice freeway to drive on or to look at, both due to design and due to neglectful maintenance though it does offer some very nice views around the dangerous curve near the Victoria, both going in of the city and going out of the water.

[IshmaelJones]

Gazette story spurs inquiry into Société du Havre de Montréal

 

 

By Marian Scott, The Gazette July 21, 2011

 

 

 

MONTREAL - The city’s auditor-general has promised to investigate the Société du Havre de Montréal in the wake of concerns raised by a Gazette report.

 

Southwest borough mayor Benoît Dorais wrote to Jacques Bergeron on July 12 asking the auditor-general to investigate apparent conflicts of interest at the city-funded agency.

 

“Following information reported today in The Gazette newspaper, I would like to bring to your attention the troubling situation surrounding the management of the Société du Havre de Montréal (SHM) and the existence of conflicts of interest involving members of management,” Dorais wrote.

 

Bergeron replied on July 14 that he will look into the SHM in early August, as soon as vacation schedules permit.

 

“Be assured that we will treat with diligence the situation that you mention in your letter,” Bergeron wrote.

 

Dorais requested the investigation after The Gazette revealed that a project director for the SHM was on an engineering company’s payroll while supervising a contract awarded to that same firm.

 

The SHM is a non-profit organization funded by the city to plan and manage the $203-million reconstruction of the Bonaventure Expressway.

 

The project, slated for 2013, involves replacing a one-kilometre section of the downtown highway with a boulevard and rerouting some of the South Shore buses that use the Bonaventure onto nearby Dalhousie St. in Griffintown.

 

Both opposition parties are calling on the city to abolish the SHM, charging it lacks transparency and is dominated by business interests.

 

Projet Montréal has already asked Bergeron to investigate the SHM’s finances.

 

On Wednesday, The Gazette reported that a public-transportation advocacy group that lobbied for the Bonaventure project also had close ties to the SHM.

 

At public hearings last year, Transport 2000 was represented by Jacques Côté, president and CEO of the SHM from 2002-2007 and from February 2010 to February 2011. Côté is now president of the SHM’s board.

 

In March, The Gazette revealed the city has already committed at least $30 million to the SHM for plans and studies on the Bonaventure project before a single shovel has hit the ground.

 

mascot@montrealgazette.com

© Copyright © The Montreal Gazette

[jesseps]

So let me guess, another project that bites the dust in the city.

[IshmaelJones]

Not before a huge scandal breaks out...

 

Goes to show, if you're gonna do something do it right from the beginning. You wanna bulldoze, that's for the construction part of the job, not the concertation.

 

[jesseps]

The official opposition at city hall wants the Tremblay administration to put a hold on the reconstruction of the Bonaventure Expressway saying there are more important things to do right now.

 

Leader of the official opposition Louise Harel says it doesn't make sense to dismantle the Bonaventure until we know the future plans of the Champlain Bridge.

 

Besides asking for a moratorium on the project, the Vision Montreal team also wants the Mayor to withdraw his request to borrow 71 million dollars to move ahead with the project.

 

Harel says she also wants the city to stop financing the Société du Havre, the group hired to manage the project, because it lacks transparency and taxpayers' money could be better spent elsewhere.

 

(Courtesy of CJAD)

[IluvMTL]

Hate to say it, but a lot of what Harel says makes sense, especially the part of needing to know where the new Champlain will go BEFORE redoing the Bonaventure.

[MARTY]

That's just what we need ..delays..so that the price tag will double or triple!!The Champlain Bridge doe not come into the part of the Bonaventure expressway where the main rebuild will be done for this part of the project.

 

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=900+mill,+montreal&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=900+Rue+Mill,+Montr%C3%A9al,+Qu%C3%A9bec+H3C+1Y4&ll=45.489622,-73.55587&spn=0.064984,0.197754&z=13&vpsrc=6&ei=XatKTrugJYqCzQS6-P3QBQ&pw=2

 

If this part gets done the Feds will have to fess up and get the Champlain replacement project going. Besides, imagine everything getting done at the same time...holy crap!!

 

No delays please the budget will go into an upward spiral...Remember this is Quebec !!

 

 

:duh:

Modifié 16 août 2011 par MARTY