autoroute 10 Autoroute 10 (Bonaventure - portion au nord du canal (boul. urbain))

[Malek]

This guy is saying what I have been saying since the beginning... this project is just not worthy of any money and time... it's all built on nonsense and magic thinking.

[IluvMTL]

Can't we just level the elevated part (to improve the aesthetics & lower maintenance costs) & keep the boulevard as it is?

Modifié 21 août 2011 par IluvMTL

[kool maudit]

well, whatever - if we're not gonna do anything about it, let's build right up to it and all around it. toronto is doing it with the cpr tracks/gardner, and that is about 25 times wider than this.

 

it'll be fine. i'm sure it will be fine.

 

just build.

[Cyrus]

Can't we just level the elevated part (to improve the aesthetics & lower maintenance costs) & keep the boulevard as it is?

 

Which boulevard, you mean pave the land under the viaduct or Duke / Nazareth on either side?

 

In any event the project seems nuts because it would totally fuck the buses, even with the "couloir" they are still going to have traffic lights and a poor capacity while right now they have a straight freeway shot... and selling land in a linear transport ROW seems insane, even if they tore down the freeway and put a LRT in the middle or anything would seem better, considering how re-acquiring ROW would basically be impossible once large buildings are established... and with all the space around it, it isn't like there is a lack of developable space...

[IluvMTL]

I'm no expert on traffic configuration by a long shot, but I'm talking about tearing down the elevated part between de la Commune and St-Paul.

 

Is there a simpler (and more economical) way to configure this section (along with Duke & Nazareth St)? Can more of the expressway be sunken? Can it be done in such a way to free up land (or increase the value of the existing properties) and encourage development on either side, but preserving the wide central boulevard?

 

The view of downtown coming into view is great now, but the effect will be a lot less impressive if they divide the roadway and put buildings in between.

[Cyrus]

The basic idea of the elevated freeway is to preserve the streets below so pedestrians are unaffected and it is easy to cross the road. You could basically build it in a trench with overpasses like Decarie or even with a cut-and-cover lid on top like the Ville-Marie is set up. You could run it at-grade but then there would be space issues and it would be hard to cross the area on foot...

 

Having the highway coming in below-grade would make an interesting effect when it ends and becomes University, currently it is interesting since the highway is elevated and drops down but there is a hill, the other way you'd have like this big hole that is shooting cars out of it (kind of like the 720 West -> 10 East ramp but bigger)

[IluvMTL]

I understand ensuring and preserving fluidity for the cars taking the Ville-Marie, so it makes sense having it below grade for that section (preferably starting before it hits the Lachine Canal) , and couldn't you have a René-Lévesque type boulevard (built right over this tunnel) for the cars travelling at a lower speed at street level (those exiting in Old-Montreal and points north to downtown)? That wouldn't hamper pedestrian or east-west vehicle crossings, as those speeding to the V-M would be in the tunnel underneath.

 

I have to admit I didn't really study their proposal to see how they dismantle the overpass and still make it a people-friendly hood as they say it will become...they had to overcome this very issue.

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[SKYMTL]

For once I totally and completely agree with Harel.

 

That's magical thinking. The city needs to prioritize the development of downtown's many parking lots instead of fantasizing about squeezing buildings into a no-man's land between two streams of heavy traffic.

 

Hallelujah! AMEN!

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[IluvMTL]

ASSEMBLÉE ORDINAIRE DU CONSEIL MUNICIPAL VERSION 2 Le lundi 22 août 2011 à 14 h

Assemblée ordinaire du conseil municipal du lundi 22 août 2011

Comme d'habiude vous pouvez regarder l'assemblée en webdiffusion.

 

 

ORDRE DU JOUR

Version du 18 août 2011

http://ville.montreal.qc.ca/document...2_14h00_FR.pdf

 

 

Quelques items sur l'ordre du jour:

 

65.03 Direction générale , Direction du greffe

Motion de l'opposition officielle pour l'émission d'un moratoire sur la réalisation des travaux entourant le « Quartier Bonaventure », la cessation de tout aide financière et contrats avec la Société du Havre de Montréal et le rapatriement de ces mandats au sein des services municipaux

 

 

42.04 Direction générale , Cabinet du directeur général - 1111009001

Adoption - Règlement autorisant un emprunt de 70 996 000 $ afin de financer la réalisation d'une nouvelle tranche du projet Bonaventure (phase 1)

Compétence d’agglomération : Annexe du décret - Aménagement et réaménagement du domaine public, y compris les travaux d'infrastructures, dans un secteur de l'agglomération désigné comme le centre-ville

[IluvMTL]

La motion pour l'emprunt de 70 996 000 $ vient d'être adoptée.