ville-marie YUL - 38, 38 étages (2021)

[Kodun]

Le marché du condo au centre-ville est presque purement spéculatif, c'est un produit d'investissement. Les paramètres sont: l'emplacement, la demande, les taux d'intérêts bas et la reprise américaine en cours. Le premier explique la primauté du centre-ville, les deux autres le pourquoi et le troisième est relativement nouveau et pourrait sauver la mise. En effet, la bulle immobilière inquiète mais, advenant une certaine pénurie d'opportunités sur le marché américain, ceux-ci pourraient se tourner vers ici car le dollar redevient intéressant. N'oublions pas les étudiants étrangers pour qui (surtout leurs parents) le dollar fait en sorte que le logement devient (encore) plus abordable.

 

En dehors du centre-ville la spéculation est beaucoup plus risquée car la demande n'est pas aussi soutenue et il est plus avisé d'investir dans un horizon de long terme. C'est le phénomène des initiés suivis des épargnants, ces derniers arrivent plus tard, la première vague aura plus de chances mais la deuxième risque fort de se faire peinturer dans le coin.

[mont royal]

How do you explain less space in Toronto? Vancouver, maybe, but Toronto is one big sprawly city and suburbs. Don't bother with the greenbelt. That is unconvincing an argument as can be. The fact is, Montreal is an island and is less prone to sprawl and more inclined to density traditionally.

 

Less space is defined as livable space in proximity to the centre of town. Take a compass, place it on city hall and draw a circle, let`s say 5 kilometers out. Toronto has half the space of Montreal. Vancouver might appear to also half the same proportion as Toronto, but in reality it is also hemmed in by the mountains where construction is not feasible. So Vancouver has even less space available than Toronto. So, for those who want to live within 5 K`s of downtown, close to city hall, offices, major shopping, if they live in Toronto, and they are standing at city hall. they have only 180 degrees of land to choose from, whereas that same person standing at Montreal City Hall has 380 degrees of space to choose from. So, theoretically, if both Montreal and Toronto had the same population and economy, it would probably cost a Torontonian twice as much to live close to downtown as it would for a Montrealer. There are other factors at play, of course, but availability of space is a key one.

 

Inevitably, a coastal city will have a higher cost of living than an inland city surrounded by inhabitable land. Already in Montreal, you have to get out pretty far and, basically off island, to find reasonably priced housing. In Toronto, you have to go even further away from the center because of Lake Ontario. Even though there is a definite attraction for some to the white picket fence in the Burbs, in part because of the lower cost of housing, for many it means 2-3 hours of commuting every day. For most, that is lost time. If you want to avoid that, and live closer to the centre, you are going to pay a lot more for housing. So the demand is high to be within walking distance of work and the less space available for that privilege, the higher the prices.

[Robert Keaghan Jennings]

There are still more people living within a 5k radius of downtown Montreal than in Toronto. So, you may be right for the cost of housing, but Montreal remains the denser city in many ways.

 

Less space is defined as livable space in proximity to the centre of town. Take a compass, place it on city hall and draw a circle, let`s say 5 kilometers out. Toronto has half the space of Montreal. Vancouver might appear to also half the same proportion as Toronto, but in reality it is also hemmed in by the mountains where construction is not feasible. So Vancouver has even less space available than Toronto. So, for those who want to live within 5 K`s of downtown, close to city hall, offices, major shopping, if they live in Toronto, and they are standing at city hall. they have only 180 degrees of land to choose from, whereas that same person standing at Montreal City Hall has 380 degrees of space to choose from. So, theoretically, if both Montreal and Toronto had the same population and economy, it would probably cost a Torontonian twice as much to live close to downtown as it would for a Montrealer. There are other factors at play, of course, but availability of space is a key one.

 

Inevitably, a coastal city will have a higher cost of living than an inland city surrounded by inhabitable land. Already in Montreal, you have to get out pretty far and, basically off island, to find reasonably priced housing. In Toronto, you have to go even further away from the center because of Lake Ontario. Even though there is a definite attraction for some to the white picket fence in the Burbs, in part because of the lower cost of housing, for many it means 2-3 hours of commuting every day. For most, that is lost time. If you want to avoid that, and live closer to the centre, you are going to pay a lot more for housing. So the demand is high to be within walking distance of work and the less space available for that privilege, the higher the prices.

[ProposMontréal]

Que vont-ils faire de la Maison Louis-Hippolyte-Lafontaine exactement ?

Je suis passé par la en fin de semaine et il y a des échafauds sur la maison et tout, mais si l'on se fit aux images, je me demande ce qu'ils vont faire avec.

(et ça ne me tente pas de me taper les 118 pages de ce fil)

[UrbMtl]

On avait annoncé qu'ils la renoveront pour en faire deux unités. Dans le cadre du projet Yul

[Mokita]

one more ...

 

[acpnc]

Très intéressante photo. En regardant bien, il reste encore beaucoup d'espaces à développer. Soit en occupant les derniers stationnements de surface, soit en démolissant certains immeubles qui pourront laisser place à de nouvelles constructions.

[SkahHigh]

^ en effet. Je vois bien le Maritime Plaza et l'hôtel Espresso être démolis dans les 10 prochaines années.

[man with the golden gun]

Moi je souhaite voir disparaitre l'affreux pavillon de l'Université Concordia, quel gaspillage ce sur ce terrain en plein centre ville de Montréal.

^ en effet. Je vois bien le Maritime Plaza et l'hôtel Espresso être démolis dans les 10 prochaines années.

[andre md]

Un de mes amis travaillait auparavant a l'hotel maritime ils l'ont fermé pour en faire une résidence etudiante mais ca pas ete fait . Selon ce que j'ai entendu il veulent le reouvrir comme hotel mais attendent 2 ans pour empecher un recours eventuel du syndicat.

^ en effet. Je vois bien le Maritime Plaza et l'hôtel Espresso être démolis dans les 10 prochaines années.