côte-des-neiges-notre-dame-de-grâce Grand réaménagement de l’Oratoire Saint-Joseph

[Normand Hamel]

Il y a 1 heure, budgebandit a dit :

I disagree... Different professionals, different contractors and vastly different scopes of work.

The current project has nothing to do with the observatory that will be in the dome.

All you say is true. However, if you go back in time to the moment the announcement was made you will notice that a single project was announced back then that included various phases. In the following video the different phases are indeed presented as a single project.

Follows an excerpt from the competition catalogue (which dates 2018-06-13).

As part of the development of its Master Plan for Development, to which phases A2 and A3 are in production, Saint Joseph's Oratory of Mount Royal wishes to complete phase A4, which will allow the finalization of the vision of the basilica's architects: access to the space between the dome of the basilica and the outer dome, to its culminating point, the lantern, a unique observatory in Montreal. This stage represents the final element of this unique architectural ensemble. To this project is added the redefinition of the museum component of Saint Joseph's Oratory of Mount Royal and the redevelopment of its museum.

Phase A4 aims to improve (museum) and develop (between dome and observation center) the experience of the pilgrim and the visitor during their journey in the Oratory by a renewed and improved route. This phase includes the upgrade of the exhibition hall and reserves, the creation of a new multimedia interpretation and animation center in the inter-domes, and the accessibility of the observatory. This work will create a new circuit focused on architectural, heritage and cultural discovery, independent of the one leading to the basilica.

https://www.ccc.umontreal.ca/fiche_concours.php?lang=en&cId=502

[Rusty]

does anyone know what view of the south/downtown will look like ?  Im curious 

[budgebandit]

8 hours ago, Normand Hamel said:

All you say is true. However, if you go back in time to the moment the announcement was made you will notice that a single project was announced back then that included various phases. In the following video the different phases are indeed presented as a single project.

Follows an excerpt from the competition catalogue (which dates 2018-06-13).

As part of the development of its Master Plan for Development, to which phases A2 and A3 are in production, Saint Joseph's Oratory of Mount Royal wishes to complete phase A4, which will allow the finalization of the vision of the basilica's architects: access to the space between the dome of the basilica and the outer dome, to its culminating point, the lantern, a unique observatory in Montreal. This stage represents the final element of this unique architectural ensemble. To this project is added the redefinition of the museum component of Saint Joseph's Oratory of Mount Royal and the redevelopment of its museum.

Phase A4 aims to improve (museum) and develop (between dome and observation center) the experience of the pilgrim and the visitor during their journey in the Oratory by a renewed and improved route. This phase includes the upgrade of the exhibition hall and reserves, the creation of a new multimedia interpretation and animation center in the inter-domes, and the accessibility of the observatory. This work will create a new circuit focused on architectural, heritage and cultural discovery, independent of the one leading to the basilica.

https://www.ccc.umontreal.ca/fiche_concours.php?lang=en&cId=502

As a compromise, I suggest that the title of the thread be changed to reflect the fact that this discussion is for the entire redevelopment and not just the observatory

 

[Rusty]

Oh I just saw video ... wow !!!! this project is amazing and not really discussed here thanks for sharing 

[Philippe]

33 minutes ago, Rusty said:

does anyone know what view of the south/downtown will look like ?  Im curious 

I used to live at 3665 ridgewood street in the early 00's. Same height than Oratory and we could only see the top-5 skyscrapers from the rooftop of the building. Bois Summit is hidding most of the view.  

[Rocco]

4 minutes ago, Philippe said:

I used to live at 3665 ridgewood street in the early 00's. Same height than Oratory and we could only see the big 5 skyscrapers from the rooftop of the building. Bois Summit is hidding most of the view.  

Dont tell me that 3665 Ridgewood is as high as the coupole on top of the Oratory. Please.

[Philippe]

4 minutes ago, Rocco said:

Dont tell me that 3665 Ridgewood is as high as the coupole on top of the Oratory. Please.

As per Google Earth, 193m vs 247m , so probably high enough to have a clean view .

[Windex]

[Normand Hamel]

Il y a 2 heures, budgebandit a dit :

As a compromise, I suggest that the title of the thread be changed to reflect the fact that this discussion is for the entire redevelopment and not just the observatory

 

Voici comment l'Oratoire nomme officiellement son projet: « Grand projet d’aménagement de l’Oratoire Saint-Joseph du Mont-Royal »

Pour bien représenter l'ensemble du projet je suggérerais que l'image en tête de fil soit changée pour la première de Lemay parmi les quatre que j'ai partagées à la page précédente (p.10).

https://oratoire360.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/OSJMR-Grand-projet-2019.pdf

[Normand Hamel]

Il y a 9 heures, Normand Hamel a dit :

As part of the development of its Master Plan for Development, to which phases A2 and A3 are in production, Saint Joseph's Oratory of Mount Royal wishes to complete phase A4, which will allow the finalization of the vision of the basilica's architects: access to the space between the dome of the basilica and the outer dome, to its culminating point, the lantern, a unique observatory in Montreal. This stage represents the final element of this unique architectural ensemble. To this project is added the redefinition of the museum component of Saint Joseph's Oratory of Mount Royal and the redevelopment of its museum.

Phase A4 aims to improve (museum) and develop (between dome and observation center) the experience of the pilgrim and the visitor during their journey in the Oratory by a renewed and improved route. This phase includes the upgrade of the exhibition hall and reserves, the creation of a new multimedia interpretation and animation center in the inter-domes, and the accessibility of the observatory. This work will create a new circuit focused on architectural, heritage and cultural discovery, independent of the one leading to the basilica.

La phase 1 du grand projet d’aménagement, comprenant la création d’une nouvelle montée et l’ajout d’ascenseurs, a été complétée en 2009. Voir la fiche d'information ci-jointe du plan de développement pour avoir une description sommaire des trois autres phases.