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Let's Imagine Montreal Mega project is halted as Mr. Dinosaur Bumble Brain wins appeal with the assistance of NIMBY Incorporated. Project with 3 x 50 storey towers and a 45 storey hotel along with a new convention center is now being built in Ottawa. (December 2021). The first out house - shanty town slum is going to be preserved at the corner of Boulevard Je Me Souviens and WTF Avenue!!!!!! :silly:

Holy craps Mark, I guess you qualify Vancouver as a 3rd tier city also, because most of their buildings are in the 20 to 35 storey range. Stop whining and enjoy the boom!!!

9 Cranes: 2 TDC 2 Avenue 2 YUL 1 Holiday Inn 1 Roccabella 1 Icone

Wow, dirty pool alright. While IC is busy building in Chicago, France , Toronto and elsewhere.... Okay the Manulife Bldg in Mtl. Cadillac Fairview has been busy putting together a rather handsome and well thought out redevelopment of one of Montreal's most neglected corners. Think about it. The Bell (Molson)Center opened in 1996 and nothing else has gone up since. The exception is the Place du Commerce Electronique finished in 2004 at a quarter of the size of the original Project which was heavily subsidized by Bernard Landry's PQ government. We now have the Deloitte/RioTinto Tower( getting close to occupancy) and la Tour du Canadien(in construction) and the TDC2 & 3 are on the verge of launching. So IC was caught with their pants down and are crying, because Deloitte is leaving their flagship PVM. That is a free market and too bad so sad for IC. The CF investments have spurred on Roccabella, Icone, Broccolini(Avenue) and the Holiday Inn and the other 38 storey YUL tower. So what has IC spurred on lately??????

Just imagine if the height limitation was lifted. How many new buildings would surpass 233 m (764 ft). In Toronto 10 buildings ,including the CN tower are 233 meters or more. It has taken 50 years to build up Toronto's skyline and only 10 buildings are over 233 meters!! A few of them are over 233 meters because of their antennas or masts which is calculated in the overall height.So if the restriction was lifted in Montreal, How many do you think would surpass this limit. 1, 2 or 3 maybe over the next 20 years!!! In 20 years who knows what the future administrations will decide. If these 3 or 4 tall buildings were ever built, how much can they hide especially if they are slim buildings and are placed like the 1250 René Levesques, skinny side perpendicular to Mt.Royal. Just a reflection. ;)

MMe Mayrand is another blind fool who turns to the great Suzuki to make points...well read the article below.....poor deluded left wing hippies...you really don't get it doo you???? The two Suzukis: There’s Saint Suzuki, the one you see on CBC, and Secret Suzuki, the capitalist millionaire Ezra Levant_op By Ezra Levant, QMI Agency First posted: Saturday, October 12, 2013 06:00 PM EDT David Suzuki David Suzuki (QMI Agency files) Article David Suzuki says politicians should be charged over climate change Suzuki: Harper is building prisons for eco-activists CBC paid big bucks to party with Suzuki: Documents David Suzuki a man of property Suzuki hurts his own cause: Greenpeace founder Saint Suzuki's toxic emissions David Suzuki’s deep thoughts Ezra Levant vs. David Suzuki Down Under blunder: David Suzuki unmasked as a know-nothing huckster on Australian TV David Suzuki faces mock trial Dubious distinction: Suzuki tops ‘most-admired’ list on a poll that in truth is a complete sham David Suzuki: The fallen saint Price of freedom is high: Ezra wages new battle for free speech Judge in Suzuki 'mock trial' drops out: report Related Videos David Suzuki's rich and famous lifestyle Sun News vs. Suzuki David Suzuki’s deep thoughts David Suzuki down under Suzuki stirs the pot There are two David Suzukis. Most of us know one of the Suzukis. Let’s call him Saint Suzuki. That’s the Suzuki whose TV show on the CBC constantly lectures us about our lifestyle. He says we need to consume less, buy less and use less fossil fuels. But then there’s another Suzuki. Let’s call him Secret Suzuki, because he’s far less well-known. Secret Suzuki is the one who lives on Vancouver’s elite Point Grey Road, on a double lot, overlooking English Bay, right above the exclusive Kitsilano Yacht Club. The City of Vancouver assesses the land value alone at over $8 million. And that’s just one of Secret Suzuki’s properties. He has another million-dollar home in Vancouver. And then there’s another home on Quadra Island. That’s three homes right there, if you count the double lot on Point Grey Road as just one property. But then there’s his large property holdings on Nelson Island. What’s so fascinating about that one is that he co-owns the property with an oil company, Kootenay Oil Distributors Ltd. They don’t plan to drill for oil together. It’s a beautiful tourist spot — maybe perfect for a nice big condo development. Of course, there’s nothing wrong with co-owning any property along with an oil company. But isn’t Saint Suzuki against fossil fuel companies — especially oil companies? Saint Suzuki tells us that the world is desperately overcrowded, that we’re overpopulated, and that we’re going to run out of things. But in his own life, Secret Suzuki has five children. There’s nothing wrong with having five children. It’s a blessing. But then why does he think other people should have fewer kids? Saint Suzuki rails against corporations and profits. He even gave a well-received anti-capitalist speech at the Occupy Vancouver protest. But Secret Suzuki himself has several corporations. One of them, the David Suzuki Foundation, took in a whopping $9 million last year and has $12 million in assets. More than 10 million of that is invested in stocks and bonds. Saint Suzuki despises lobbyists, and says they have a disproportionate control of political power in Ottawa. But Secret Suzuki himself has nine paid lobbyists registered in Ottawa’s lobbyist registry. Not one. Nine. Saint Suzuki despises politicians, and says they can’t be trusted. Secret Suzuki starred in a Liberal party TV ad along with former Ontario premier Dalton McGuinty. Saint Suzuki says corporations have to be less obsessed by profits, and do more for the public good. They need to especially think of the interests of the next generation, our children. But Secret Suzuki has made a tidy profit off young people. His standard speaking fee at universities in Canada is $30,000 plus expenses. He billed Quebec’s John Abbott College a cool $41,000 to visit them. Saint Suzuki speaks in the language of tolerance and equality and liberalism — utterly politically correct. But Secret Suzuki engages in conduct that should cause feminists to raise an eyebrow. When he visited John Abbott College, his assistant called with special requests to go along with his speaking fee. Here is an internal e-mail from the college’s Mary Milburn: “We have learned, via Dr. Suzuki’s assistant, that although the Dr. does not like to have bodyguards per se, he does not mind having a couple of ladies (females) that would act as body guards.” The college’s Jim Anderson got involved in selecting the coeds, too: “Please be certain that the women are nicely dressed, we don’t want them in evening gowns, but definitely NOT Police Tech uniforms.” All of this bizarre selection of girls, dressed just so, was the result of Secret Suzuki’s special request. If he were a conservative, he’d be called a dirty old man. But he’s a saint. So the college went along with it. David Suzuki is not a criminal. But he is not a saint. He’s a real man — a capitalist millionaire, a politician, a man with a staff of lobbyists, a prolific father, a wealthy landlord. If only he’d stop scolding the rest of us for aspiring to do the same. ...................................................................................................................................................................................... http://www.torontosun.com/2013/10/11/the-two-suzukis-theres-saint-suzuki-the-one-you-see-on-cbc-and-secret-suzuki-the-capitalist-millionaire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mme Mayrand seems to leave out the hundreds of millions of dollars in salaries for the cnstruction workers and the suppliers of building materials that will be used in the construction of this center. Just keep inventing shit making it up as you go. Use the sellouts like Suzuki and Al Gore to bolster your merits and think that your arguements are flawless.Hey wake up , smell the coffee,,, this is capitalism and too bad so sad but until you come up with a better system ...put out or shut up...offer solutions not just offer your unfounded nimby propaganda crap!!

Hey listen, My rant was not targeted at you at all. I commend you in bringingthe article to our attentio...it's just that this type of article irks me to no end...Can we get over the hurdle that I believe is crippling our progress. Enough already with these stories of us against them.....It does no good for anyone. I apologize if i insulted anyone on the forum...That was not my intention. and as for Bon Voyage...Mont Royal....I ain't goin anywhere!!!

Alright back to the rich and poor , the English and French , 2 solitudes. GO f yourself every thing revolves around the same shit over and over ad nauseam. Son of a Bitch!! I am so f..n sick of the same old bullshit over and over again...Yeah let's not forget TMR is where Pierre Elliot Trudeau use to run so hey fuck everything!!! Yeah and all the English hide their millions from the poor Habitants!!! I am so pissed off right now I just feel like screaming and leaving this f...n province once and for alll,,,, Son of a bitch....what a bunch of f..n Morons.............This is a thread about a fuckin mega million dollar city redevelopment project..........pheeewwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::eek2::duh::banghead::yikes::dizzy::ohmygod::hypnodisk: From ILUVMTL

What is important here is that the city makes sure that this group headed by Carbonleo is damn serious about this project and that it is not simply a ploy to jack up land values for speculators. Once that is established, the city can ask for miodifications and ensure that the project fits in with the least disruption posssible. Once this commitment to build and target dates and financing is in place - let them build this project. I worked for 20 years on DevonShire facing Kraft. Let me tell you this is one of the worst examples of an industrial slum. Ugly buildings and streets that go nowhere because of Blue Bonnets and the CP Cote St-Luc Yards. This project will be the spark for the redevelopment of the Blue Bonnets Site and in the future, the CP lands. Let's stop the "Gros Village" mentality. Montreal has a population pool of over 4 million people. Edmonton barely has over 1 million, yet they have the West Edmonton Mall and no-one is bitching about the big redevelopment of the downtown area around the new Oilers arena. Go to Toronto and drop your jaw, it's only 6 hours away , they have the Vaughn Mils, the Woodbine complex etc,etc. They have a pool of about 5.6 million in the GTA so what is everyone worried about?? All the people in downtown Montreal have plenty of stores to go to in the area. Is it better for Montrealers to go to 10/30 in Brossard or the malls in Laval?? So let the cards fall in the right places and let's back some serious private investments.......We bitch when ther is no private investment and we bitch when ther is some activity in the private sector......Sometimes I wonder if it's me or is everyone out to ruin Montreal!!!

There will be a bunch of oudoor giant screens where Habs Fans that don't fit in the Bell center can watch the playoffs outside..................party time!!!! SORT of like this in Toronto a few years ago

I am really fed up with all these f'en nimbys. I worked on Devonshire facing Kraft foods form 1978 to 1996 when my company finally moved to a location near Ikea. This area is a DEAD zone...After 5 pm there is absolutely nothing going on. The only activity was from people parking around the area heading to Blue Bonnets.Now that the raceway has been closed for years the area is a wasteland. Wait until the CPR Cote st Luc yards close, and they will. This will become a no mans land. So we have a developer with deep pockets and great connections who wants to redevelop the whole area and people are against it???? What the fuck is wrong with people? Billions and billions of dollars being planned for investment and people are against it. Holy crap just close the fuckin city and let nature take irts course. Other cities like Detroit , Buffalo, Flint, Milwaukee, etc etc etc would sell their souls to get these type of projects but no not here we listen to fuckin citizen groups that are concerned about their fuckin front lawns. I am for responsible well thought out city development planning as well as making sure that the developers are seriously committed and have the financial means and backing. However, let's not start shitting on every project that some well meaning business that wants to make money and also make a positive addition to the community's fabric presents for approval. Let's encourage these developers and help them to modify and perfect the projects. This project if it goes ahead, will generate interest in the surronding areas...yes, Blue Bonnets included. Some people mention Blue Bonnets first but don't forget Blue Bonnets is land locked by the Expressways and this dead zone and the Cote St. Luc Yards. So open the dead zone and Blue Bonnets has a new fresh opening that will invite more investors and eventually the CPR yards will also be developed.. Anyways I hope that this project gets the go ahead.:shiftyeyes::shiftyeyes::shiftyeyes::shiftyeyes:

Les gros problèmes sont causés par l'eau. Les rivières et cours d'eau souterrains provoquent certains problèmes, mais la nappe phréatique a aussi son effet. L'élévation de l'île de Montréal diminue lorsque nous approchons le fleuve Saint-Laurent et le niveau de la nappe phréatique monte. Ils ont des problèmes similaires à New York et n'importe où, lorsque les bâtiments avec des fondations profondes sont à proximité de grandes masses d'eau. À Shanghai, certains bâtiments se sont enfoncer lentement parce que le mélange d'eau et sol devient comme des sables mouvants. Si vous vous souvenez le Westin sur Saint Antoine avait fait face à des retards similaires en raison de niveaux d'eau, et ca fait seulement 6 ou 7 ans. Patience!!!

KNOW YOUR HISTORY & FACTS before you make unfounded statements. Yes they are have technical problems because there are fucking rivers that criss cross the city in these areas of downtown. See below and of all the people that should have been objective and calmed everybody's doubts. La Presse had it's head office built back in the 50's and they had a shit load of problems and delays because of the undergrounfd streams and rivers. I remember my late father telling me stories about the construction headaches that they faced putting up the La Presse building. Guys relax stop speculating and look for the facts...stop spewing baseless crap.... Read the article on the following site :mad::mad::mad: http://www.vieux.montreal.qc.ca/inventaire/fiches/fiche_bat.php?num=13&sec=q Histoire du bâtiment Cet édifice est construit par le journal La Presse en 1958-1959, afin d'agrandir ses bureaux et d'automatiser son imprimerie. Les travaux de préparation commencent dès 1955. L'architecte Jacques M. Morin conçoit le nouvel immeuble. Il faut démolir plusieurs bâtiments; on découvre aussi des vestiges des anciennes fortifications lors des travaux d’excavation, qui révèlent aussi des problèmes techniques qui retardent la construction proprement dite. Le futur édifice reposera sur le lit de la rivière Saint-Martin, située sous la rue Saint-Antoine. Le roc sur lequel l’édifice peut s’ancrer se trouve 60 pieds plus bas. Les ingénieurs-conseils Surveyer, Nenninger et Chênevert doivent donc travailler à rendre étanches les fondations qui, de plus, devront supporter les vibrations des presses rotatives installées au niveau de la rue Saint-Antoine. Cet ancrage se fait à l’aide de 265 pieux accrochés au roc et, pour la première fois au Canada, une membrane étanche I.C .O.S.-Veber est utilisée pour protéger les fondations des effets destructeurs de la rivière souterraine. Quelques années plus tard, on utilisera cette même technologie pour le Palais de justice situé de l’autre côté de la rue Saint-Laurent. En octobre 1958, alors que le nouvel édifice est presque terminé, une grève éclair des journalistes secoue l’entreprise pendant 13 jours. Madame Angélina Berthiaume-Du Tremblay est alors propriétaire du journal. Au moment où la grève prend fin, elle nomme Jean-Louis Gagnon chef de la rédaction. Celui-ci amorce alors un renouveau dans l’orientation journalistique du quotidien. La première action du nouveau rédacteur en chef sera de travailler à une nouvelle page éditoriale. Au même moment, il renouvelle l’image du journal en rafraîchissant la mise en page. De plus, la façon d’aborder l’information change : la une traite maintenant en priorité des nouvelles régionales et locales plutôt que les nouvelles internationales. Une typographie plus aérée, des articles signés, un caricaturiste régulier et l’introduction d’une tribune libre complètent ces changements. L’équipe de journalistes de Jean-Louis Gagnon prend possession des locaux avec enthousiasme en octobre 1959. L’aménagement intérieur souligne l’importance que l’on accorde à la « nouvelle ». L’immense salle de rédaction de 75 pupitres, les chambres noires et les bureaux des chefs de service de la rédaction accueillent le personnel relié à l’information. Le 2e étage est réservé à la mise en page, caractères, linotypes et rangées de marbres. Les machines rotatives à haute vitesse fournissent un débit de 100 000 exemplaires à l’heure. Dans les entrepôts souterrains, on emmagasine les rouleaux de papier-journal. À la structure de béton et aux deux cages d’escalier en granit et calcaire de l’Indiana du nouvel édifice vient s’accrocher un rideau de verre retenu par des moulures d’aluminium. Au niveau de la rue Saint-Antoine, les larges baies inclinées vers l’intérieur permettent d’éviter la réflexion du soleil à ceux qui s’arrêtent pour observer le travail de la rotative ultra-rapide. Elles alternent avec des montants en granit bleu minuit de Rivière-à-Pierre, sans compter que des blocs de granit gris de Saint-Sébastien servent de seuil pour ces mêmes vitrines. Au moment où ce nouvel édifice est construit, il présente la plus grande surface vitrée à Montréal. Une passerelle au-dessus de la ruelle des Fortifications relie l’ancien bâtiment au nouveau. En 1959, la construction de cet édifice marque une évolution radicale dans la production du journal en plus de projeter une image moderne de l’entreprise. Mais tout aussi importante que les transformations physiques, la nouvelle approche journalistique annonce des changements de mentalité qui bientôt amorceront la révolution tranquille.

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voila un dessin!!

Il y a une grue à tour à l'ancien marché de St-Léonard. Il s'agit du nouveau bureau de la direction régionale d'Urgence Sante pour Montréal, je crois. Ils ont un panneau d'affichage avec une photo de l'édifice. Ce sera un bâtiment de 5 ou 6 étages qui fera face sur la rue Jarry est. They are at 3 floors already...strange I haven't seen a mention of it in MTLURB. Or did I miss it???:shhh::shhh:

Geodex is a piling company. So they have started piling and construction is on. Canvar does not screw around!!!

Hi depanosekai, thx for the clarification...but it is sneaky!! From far alot of people will think 78% sold......may indirectly affect people to go and see the project. Hopefully it will be a good seller and so it'll spawn a new crop of condo projects spreading up to the Montreal Children's Hospital area and Cabot Square.

Is that 78% sold??? ,,,,,,,If so why put up a sales office?.........And if so what method did they use to sell it so fast????

Go to groupe maurice http://www.legroupemaurice.com/files/images/residences/L22/STLEO_perspective_ext_web_nouveau.jpg http://www.legroupemaurice.com/fr/projets-en-developpement.html

Come on Rocco, don't take the message literally. What I meant to say was is there still a plan to eventually get a new headquarters built for Hydro Quebec? Of course it would not be the 1980 project. Think about the Bay Adelaide project in Toronto, after 25 years something is finally rising as that project. Or closer to home, will SNC Lavalin eventually build a second tower on their vast stretch on Rene Levesque. Just hoping that HQ will come up with a mega project. Imagine 300 Milion in 1980 would probably equate to 1 Billion dollars today. One can only dream!!

So way back on June 9th 1980 HQ was planning a new headquarters.....I wonder if it's still in the works????? http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1946&dat=19800609&id=IokxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=caQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1200,3642003

STANFORD PROPERTIES GROUP New multi-tenant office building - 52,764 square feet Pie IX Blvd, between Majeau and Larin, This project is replacing the old Mike's Restaurant on Pie IX. Sorry no Pics!!

Holy craps!! Please move this thread to the in construction section. The whole bowling alley and the old Pharmaprix have been fenced in and a plywood fence is on the front part of the site along Jean Talon......Demolition should start right after the construction vacations.What a great addition to the area and good riddance to that eyesore!!! Now if Crofton Moore could invest in more renovations and improvements to the shopping center's outside this area will be completely rejuvenated!!!

It will be on Jean Talon and Daudet right beside the Boulevard shopping center at Jean Talon and Pie IX