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I’m still curious as to how the Caisse was able to so easily claim the Doney Spur, while all we ever hear from exo and the MTQ is that they run into brick walls when trying to negotiate with the railways for dedicated tracks, whether sharing larger alignments, or along out-of-service and under-used rights of way.

CP and CN won, over a hundred years ago, having been given millions of hectares of real estate via eminent domain. Much of that land is now some of the most valuable property in Canada, and lots of it is out-of-service or under-utilized, with the railways retaining full rights to it. This is why you’ll see tracks that haven’t been used in decades, even at crossings; if the tracks are removed, petitioners can request a declaration of adverse abandonment.

…letting the photo rot and be disfigured is not a great tribute to the Rocket.

Assis là, son destin reste inachevé et son âme se flétrit avec les couches successives de rouille et de peinture de tagueurs.

Yeah, 2013, so Appelbaum. Page 23. https://ville.montreal.qc.ca/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/ARROND_SOU_FR/MEDIA/DOCUMENTS/PPU GRIFFINTOWN MAI 2013.PDF

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. Nothing has been anything more than a wish since the Tremblay-era Griffintown PPU. Or was it Appelbaum?

The first pic is striking to me because of just how decrepit the Westmount subdivision is. The main trunk of half the suburban train lines of a major, wealthy, modern city… looks like an abandoned line on the subcontinent, circa 1950.

Looks more like four storeys to me.

FWIW the Citadis Spirit has fixed bogies that don’t pivot, hence all the grinding noise. Generally, tram vehicles with pivoting bogies have fairings that move with the those bogies to protect outsiders. The 15T has fairings over all its wheels, because they all move independently of the vehicle.

I think we just said the same thing. “Jacobs,” by definition, are shared between sections/caisses, but many are still “fixed” — ie, the angle between the wheels and the vehicle doesn’t change relative to each other, and the articulation is at the coupling; on a modified Jacobs, the ends of the sections pivot relative to the bogie. The bogies under the segments on most trams are “fixed,” meaning the (usually) four wheels are fixed together, and on some low-floor trams the bogie pivots a limited amount relative to the vehicle. “Articulated” bogies have two pivots, so the two axles on the bogie pivot independently of each other. The 15T has articulated bogies on the ends (“under the sections”) and modified articulated Jacobs bogies between segments, and all the axles pivot independently relative to each other. It’s only a couple of degrees but it wakes all the difference in turn radius and wheel flange grinding, increasing comfort, speed around the tightest corners, and reducing noise, vibration and harshness.

Hehe agree 100% and I’d pay good money to see you do your Great Antonio impersonation. 😂

Pretty sure the bridge doesn’t even go perpendicular to the canal like that.

Yeah the PPU and that’s it.

No, I never noticed it on low floor trams (other than in the accordions, where I agree that the Škoda is narrower thanks to the articulating Jacobs bogies). On some — but not all — low floor trams with fixed bogies, the bogie(s) is (are) under the floor of the segment(s), but because they don’t pivot, the “wheel wells” don’t intrude on passenger space. On LF trams that use Jacobs bogies between the segments, the “wheel wells” aren’t really noticeable at all. On the 15T, the entire Jacobs between segments pivot, so they do use up some room on the lower section of the gangway (accordion). On LF buses, yes of course I see the huge wheel wells; but tram wheels are usually smaller than 600 mm and the floor height is nominally 300 to 350 mm.

Are they at the 28th already? So eight more? Yeah, perhaps we’ll see a start on the taller tower later this summer!

CHOO-CHOO! It’s honestly crazy that we’ve seen nothing about rehabilitating the CN-Wellington swing bridge other than a brief hint in the PPU.

I’m unclear on this. I’ve never seen “wheel wells” on a tram. The bogie is under the floor.

Les Citadis et Flexity ont des bogies Jabobs entre les sections, mais pas des bogies entièrement articulés aux deux bouts des rames comme sur le Škoda 15T ForCity, qui a en plus des bogies Jacobs modifiés sous les accordions qui pivotent indépendamment des joints Jacobs. Citadis Spirit in Ottawa. These bogies don’t fully articulate.

I dunno, the version of the 15T in Qingdao is 35 metres long, has six doors per side, and a capacity of 300 passengers (compared to REM-B’s proposed 350 passengers in a 40 metre vehicle). It’s available in lengths up to five segments able to carry up to 539 passengers. It’s not measurably tighter than a fixed-bogey tram, other than in the accordions.

Dunno what’s worst: the elements @Rocco listed, or the un-aerodynamic (read: cheapest) train cars.

Exactly. Saw this coming from a mile away. Smh

Also quite possible the old Pop Shoppe (Tim Hortons, Copper Branch, etc) is in some developer’s bullseye as land around Fairview becomes scarce.

I think Skoda makes LF trams with articulated bogeys. Ask @Rotax. 😉

Good point. 👍🏼