Djentmaster001

Agreed, I still want to see what definitions changed under StatsCan and how it applied to Montreal. I always want accuracy but it seems like it changes on the fly and makes it unnecessarily confusing to everyone.

They're two very long concrete columns but don't see what else will be added.

So on some parts of the website, it says that StatsCan changed the definition of what a tech job is, so Canadian cities got revised. Even then, only Montreal saw a hefty revision and these numbers are from 2021. It makes me scared to see what next years report will be, considering Bill 96 and the global economy.

Scoring tech talent by CBRE came out for 2022. Apparently Montreal lost a lot of tech jobs, going from 160,000 to 149,000. Thing is Montreal International says 2021 = 178,000 workers. So no idea if it's counted different or the city actually lost 11K jobs. https://www.cbre.com/insights/books/scoring-tech-talent-2022/03-which-are-the-top-ranked-tech-talent-markets

Would be cool if it truly was 173 metres, but they used the above sea level height. The structural height was established at 144 (unless something changed and they added more floors and units and all that).

Related because the publicity around it is scaring off investors, so they are adopting a wait and see approach with everything going on.

To be fair, as much as I dislike 20-20-20, the rule doesn't even apply to Ville-Marie. What's really going on is 1. Covid ruined the city's momentum. 2. Then inflation really killed it for us. 3. Add people leaving and a certain bill that passed June 1st, which has scared off investors and has even delayed projects (along with other factors). 4. Interests rates are shooting up. 5. There's a recession coming. 6. The supply chain is F'd up. 7. Yes red tape has to do with it too, but not necessarily the 20-20-20 rule since again, it does not apply to downtown as of yet. 8. Labour shortages in every single sector. 9. The war overseas is also contributing. We're in for a very rough few years after covid. The only way I see things changing is if the city gets granted powers and we can offer incentives for major projects/investments which can keep the economy going. Literally every major city is doing this and it's helping them boom post-covid, except for us of course.

Disagree, considering all the studies so far have indicated it has been a success. And the best example right now is Miami, they're offering incentives to companies who open up offices in their downtown (tax incentives, $500,000 in aid and lower office space rental deals) and they're attracting offices left and right. Montreal has not had a significant announcement of a HQ moving here or relocating here in decades, so I think the time is now.

I really wish the city and province took a playbook from American cities (i.e economic zones) and offer special tax credits or breaks to build new office towers and attract major companies (or just buildings in general). I feel with the slowdown now, these lots will be empty for a while.

I know, I am aware that not only Ednor, but what was supposed to be the new for 2020 coaster were both relocated and terrible. Of course, the 2020 edition ended up getting scrapped (I rode it in SFMM, I thought I got brain damage after), so in a way it is a blessing in disguise. I also know there were plans to add a RMC single rail where Cobra once was, but that has not happened. It looks like from now on, La Ronde will just get flat rides, all while park management continues to dwindle. Honestly, almost 100% of the clientele are from Montreal/QC. I know they try to gauge the upper state folks to come but they either go to other SF parks or go to Canada's Wonderland, which is on another level and one of the best on the continent. I do hope the city meets with park officials to at least attempt an investment spree to revitalize the park and since it's technically part of downtown... it's a good excuse to include La Ronde in the revitalization plans.

To be fair, Six Flags made a lot of investments and two major coasters came into the park in 2002 & 2006. However, it did nothing attendance wise and the park, along with others got swept aside when SF restructured. Had attendance actually gone up, I'm sure we would be seeing more capital investments in the park, but attendance has continued to decline YoY. I agree SF is underutilizing this space and hopefully Montreal can do something to ensure investment continues or even break the contract.

Another boring comment, a lot of people waiting for a game changing one.

It begins, Sanofi (French pharmaceutical company) leaving Quebec for Ontario. https://www.ledevoir.com/economie/716928/economie-sanofi-quitte-le-quebec

Considering I'm involved in the markets, I'm not wrong. Also, projects also include other sectors like office markets, we're far behind the recovery. We haven't had major projects announced in a while, compared to other cities, where major projects are being announced weekly. We still have more red tape than a lot of places (fact), more nimbysim than almost all places (fact) and the political will/power is lethargic at best. Most of what's going up is stuff pre pandemic and is factored into housing starts stats. Also key word is expected, not guaranteed. Don't be afraid to admit that MTL is at a slow start as always. Just look at other forums and news from cities re: new announced projects and economic investments. Its been very slow so far for us and my contacts in the business community have told me it's been sluggish this year. Obviously it's more short term, but there's enough evidence for that.

Just to clarify, my previous comment was about reaching pre pandemic levels. MTL is still very slow in the recovery. We aren't on the same podium anymore either, that was 5 years ago. T.O, NYC, Miami, LA, Seattle, etc.. are building much more now. Covid slowed us down and we're very slow to the recovery so far.

Considering I've lived in 4 major cities in North America, travelled to almost all continents and track major projects in major cities, I've gone out plenty. How about you? Besides the basement and around the block.

It's amazing how every major city in North America is back on track with major real estate projects and revitalisation. Meanwhile, Montreal is so damn slow and late to the game, it's really sad to see. Between constant blocking, red tape, lack of support, we continue to lose out compared to other cities, such a shame.

Hopefully something soon, I'm also getting restless for large project announcements. Getting bored of the 15-25 floor projects (good infill, just nothing spectacular).

Lol relax Karen, I was just saying Montreal has more tags on murals than most cities on this continent and that it's disrespectful. Calm down.

This city never surprises me when it comes to virtually every mural getting tagged. No respect.

It's worse for me haha, I'm on the "it better be 150m+ or bust" wagon. I did get spoiled with all the new towers going up, I just want to see taller, more ambitious buildings (mix-use) and higher density downtown.

900 St. Jacques was announced during the pandemic, so was 1050 De la Montagne and a few on Nuns Island, but yes other than that it's just been 11-25 floor buildings. I think things will heat up again very soon

Phase 2 announced, 21-floors, 324 units with a starting price at $322,900 before taxes. Studios to 2 bedrooms and a dog park on the roof. https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/2022-03-30/centre-ville-de-montreal/une-seconde-tour-sortira-du-1-square-phillips.php

CF should focus more on this project than their Fairview mall one... but we'll see what happens. Offices with large floorplates are still in demand for tech related jobs, Montreal being a tech hub already means we are poised for development. Downtown was also the second fastest growing area in the whole country between 2016-2021. My solution is simple: Mix-use the hell out of everything, the demand is still there... just some hesitation with everything. The other issue though, CF really dropped the ball with 750 Peel. Nearly 3M sq ft of office space has been added/UC downtown over the past 5-6 years, and you're telling me CF couldn't get a single agreement? They could've easily partnered up with MTL International and get people to move in, no problem. Lots of gaming companies are moving downtown but it's split between class B/class A office space. So whatever CF strategy is, clearly not working.

Is it just me or is the concrete at the below grade levels not perfectly straight?