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Quelqu'un sait si la tour la plus haute dépasserait les dômes de l'hôtel de ville et de l'ancien Palais de Justice ?Probablement mais pourquoi cette question ? Ce projet n'est même pas dans le Vieux-Montréal de toute façon !!
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Learn more English, be nicer to Muslims, get better informed.
Well, as in the rest of Canada, people living in almost entirely unilingual cities (or neighbourhoods) will doubtfully need another language. For instance, my sister is a psychologist in Longueuil and her clientele is 100% francophone. She's going through life without barely speaking english at all -and she's just across the St-Laurent from Montréal. So, I suppose that a farmer from deep inland rural Québec won't ever need english at all !! I would like these two disconnected guys to telle us what is the percentage of Quebecers that speaks english ? and in Montréal, what is the percentage of francophones that are bilingual ? as opposed to Jewish, or Sikh, or Chinese ?
How nicer can I be to muslims. By opening doors for them ? giving them my seat on the subway ? Knocking at their door to offer them "sucre à la crème" ? I mean : at best, I don't get in their way, I ignore them !! Shouldn't I ?
In Quebec, they say, everyone should feel welcome and the majority should no longer feel under threat by newcomers.This is almost an understanding. However, it is not newcomers the Quebecers are fearing but those who are challenging universal values (such as equality between boths genders).
"We think it is possible to re-concile Quebecers - franco-phones and others - with practices of harmonization, once it has been shown that: a) these practices respect our society's fundamental values, notably the equality of men and women.Now, when all muslims will accept that women are free to choose not to wear the veil ; when all muslims will accept that women can pray in the same room as men ; same for Jewish ; on short when some members of any kind of groups will accept this fundamental value of equality, there won't be anymore problems. Until then, we'll have to promote thoses values -impose them if necessary to those who choose to come to live in our society.
Therefore the reccomandations below are making absolute sense
b) they don't aim to create privileges but, rather, equality that is well understood and that respects everyone's rights.c) they encourage integration and not marginalization.
d) they're framed by guidelines and protected against spiralling out of control.
e) they're founded on the principle of reciprocity.
f) they don't play the game of fundamentalism.
g) they don't compromise the gains of the Quiet Revolution."
In their report, Bouchard and Taylor argue that the responsibility for open-mindedness and desire for change lie mainly with one people: the French Canadians themselves.That will not be well received !! I personnally do not agree. If I go live in another country, I'm expected to make an effort to integrate to the majority. If I think that any country won't correspond to my own values, I won't try to settle down ther. For instance, I would not want to settle down in Irak, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc...
"It's principally from this milieu that the crisis arose," the commissioners write, adding that many French Canadians "have a strong feeling of insecurity for the survival of their culture." They fear losing their "values, language, tradition and customs" and of eventually "disappearing" entirely as a French-speaking minority in North AmericaSelf-doubt and "the fear of the Other" - are "the two great hindrances from the French-Canadian past," the commissioners write.
"In the past, the threat came mainly from the anglophone. Before that, it was the lifestyle brought on by industrialization. Today, for many, it's the immigrant." What Quebec now faces is not the traditional "deux solitudes" of French and English, but rather "deux inquiètudes" - the twin anxieties of the majority and the new minorities, the commissioners say..
Now, what have we learn here that we didn't know already ? We actually paid them for that ?
Bouchard and Taylor also compare Quebec's immigration situation with that of other provinces, noting that Quebec has far fewer immigrants (11.5 per cent per capita, compared with 28 per cent in Ontario and British Columbia, and 16 per cent in Alberta) and far fewer ethnocultural minorities generally (21 per cent in metropolitan Montreal vs. 46 per cent in Toronto and 40 per cent in Vancouver).They should have pointed out here that there is also another difference between the ROC and Quebec : the fact that the ROC is part of the big almost entirely unilingual english cultural north-american context as opposed to Quebec, where the majority is feeling threatened by the brinks of extinction (even if is might be exagerated, it's there). Therefore, comparing immigration numbers here is almost like comparing oranges and apples.
Quebec's accommodation crisis dates to March 2006, when the Supreme Court of Canada ruled in favour of a Montreal Sikh teenager who wanted to keep wearing his kirpan, the traditional ceremonial dagger of baptized orthodox Sikh men, to school.A series of media-fuelled controversies over demands for accommodation by religious minorities followed.
For example: The Association of Maritime Employers agreed to re-examine its workplace rules after orthodox Sikh truck drivers objected to wearing safety helmets instead of their turbans at the Port of Montreal.
A Montreal YMCA frosted the windows of an exercise room so that ultraorthodox Jewish neighbours wouldn't have to watch women exercising.
And Montreal policewomen were advised in a training brochure to let their male colleagues take charge when visiting Hasidic neighborhoods.
All of the above proving that the minorities that are not pleased with our universal values -or would like us to adapt to theirs- are proof to the limits of the majority's capacity for acceptance of minoritie's demands.
People should get used to the idea that "Quebec is made up of diverse ethnic groups, each of which, as is its right and in its own way, cultivates its own memory" - in other words, none is more valuable than the other.That I hoped was and obvious understanding. unfortunately, it is not the case. However, there are rights and there are obligations. Cultivating one's memories doesn't mean trying to impose it to the majority.
The two commissioners - who each collected a salary of $380,000 for their work -...That's a lot of money for what they came out with !!
Argue against race-based projects that segregate people from mainstream society (such as a proposed all-black school).Totally agreed.
Lament the "wasted careers" of foreign professionals who can't find work here because their credentials aren't recognized.I hope this one won't be left aside !!
Deplore that only three per cent of Quebec public-service jobs are held by immigrants, "one of the worst situations in North America." Blame the Quebec media for being generally "very 'old-stock,' very 'white' (and) by consequence, they broadcast an often biased image of a (multicultural) reality that a lot of people don't know well enough."Well observed !!
Finally, they make a plea for better understanding of Quebec's Muslims, "who only make up two per cent of the Quebec population, about 130,000 people," who are "massively francophone and highly educated," who are "among the least devoutly religious of all immigrants," and who are "the least ghettoized" geographically in Montreal.Probably true but in a time of confrontation between the muslim world and the occidental culture, we shouldn't lower our guard anyway.
"The way to overcome Islamophobia is to get closer to Muslims, not to run away from them," the commissioners state.I left behind me the archaich ways of the christian values. I won't get to close to the archaich values of any other religion.
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c'est mieux qu'un terrain de stationnement et c'est qqc qui est cheap a construire, cheap a demolir pour mettre un immeuble a cet endroit lorsque la demande sera la
D'autant plus que maintenant, il y a un autre Bureau en Gros à la Gare Centrale. Ce n'est pas comme s'il n'y avait que celui de la rue Notre-Dame.
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J'ai tenté de la chercher moi aussi en scrutant les murs de soutènement : je n'ai rien vu. Selon moi, c'est bouché pour l'instant et ça ne sera ouvert que lorsque les étages souterrains seront bien coulés et les béton complètement sec.
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Je crois tout de même qu'il y a de l'abus. J'espère que çette histoire ira plus loin. Ce gars est dans le colimateur de l'opposition maintenant. Ils ne vont plus le lâcher.
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marco : la première photo semble montrer le détour construit pour permettre le rehaussement du pont au-dessus de la voie maritime.
Je ne suis pas certian de ce que je vais écrire ici mais je crois que la quatrième photo nous montre la nouvelle section du pont et sur la droite probablement les piliers de l'ancienne section -l'ancien tablier ayant déjà été détruit.
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yara:host les sur mtlurb.com, comme ça ils seront pas dégradés par imageshack.us
Il faudra que tu m'expliques comment faire...
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Ben KLindberg. Tu n'as toujours rien compris. 65 étages c'est beaucop trop haut. bumbaru va chialer!
Eh bien, il chiâlera. D'ailleurs je ne suis pas sûr tant que ça qu'il chiâlerait : e site est en plein coeur du centre-ville. De plus, il y a déjà la Tour de la Bourse. Vouloir contester une tour qui pourrait légalement atteindre la limite permise serait pour lui se tirer dans le pied. Pour l'instant nous avons plus à craindre des investisseurs qui sont trop frileux pour démarrer un projet d'envergure sur ce site que de Bumbaru.
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Views of what? The highway it overlooks?
This project is bland and in a poor location to boot. It's not a few extra stories that will make it more interesting, even if some units would get an eastward view of downtown.
Agreed. Worst location.
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Il faudrait faire un bout en tunnel, dont le début et la fin se trouverait en dehors de la réserve. Reste à savoir si les droits souterrains leurs appartiennent également.
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C'est surtout à cela que je voulais en venir.
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Des photos?
T'as donné ton adresse couriel aux étudiants en bas de la tour pour qu'ils t'envoient leurs photos de l'intérieur du chantier? haha:hyper:
En vérité, l'une des étudiantes s'est inscrite sur le site il y a de cela quelques jours et m'a envoyé un mp. Elle devrait m'envoyer de photos de l'intérieur. Si c'est le cas, je les ferais héberger sur imageshack et puis après ici !!
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Moi aussi je comprend mais parfois j'aimerais autant de compréhension de la part de certains forumeurs en ce qui concerne les inquiétudes des environnementalistes.
Pour revenir au tracé de la 30 : comment est-ce que le gouvernement a-t-il pu faire passer le tracé dans des terres revendiquées par les Mohawks sans le savoir ?? ou alors, est-ce une nouvelle excuse de la part des Mohawks pour chercher la confrontation avec les blancs ?
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Remarquez que le pont J.-C. semble n'avoir que quatre voies à l'époque.
Merci Philippe. C'est excellent !!
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C'est bien pire que les soi-disant "hippies" !! Au bout du compte, le gouvernement a bien plus peur des Autochtones !!
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On verra bien maintenant. Quelque chose est sûr, c'est que ça ne peut pas être bien haut (à cause le l'autoroute).
Peut-être mais si on se fie à ce qui a été construit par la CDP, ça pourrait tout de même avoir une certaine envergure.
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When the temperature falls below -18° C, the tower cranes have to be stopped, and that brings construction to a halt...
That's what attracted my attention. I didn't know that !!
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J'aurai peut-être des photos inédites à vous montrer éventuellement. Suspense...
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Il n'y a pratiquement plus de terre dans le trou. C'est à toute fin pratique complètement plat mais il y a encroe tout plein d'équipement au fond. Comment vont-ils faire pour remonter tout ça ? avec la grue, éventuellement (ça devrait être pour bientôt !) ?
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WestAust : je préfère la sphère avec le verre de plexiglas. Ça lui donne des reflets qu'il n'a plus aujourd'hui.
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Maudit beau projet !!! Ils continuent de pieuter en arrière pour faires des maisons de ville. J'ai hâte de voir le projet terminé.
Ça doit être extrèmement agréable d'entendre pieuter chaque matin à partir de 07h00 !!
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Entre l'Aldred et le complexe Desjardins, est-ce la grue du 400 rue Sherbrooke O. qu'on voit ?
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Ont peut meme le voir de l'Avenue du Parc a l'hauteur de la rue Fairmount.
Si loin que ça !!
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La rue University est vraiment impressionnante!
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Louis Bohème, 85M$ - 28 étages (2010)
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Avez-vous remarqué que le fond du trou qu'ils sont en train d'aplanir n'est pas sur le roc solide mais encore sur de la glaise !!?? Ma question est celle-çi : est-il possible de construire un gratte-ciel dans ces conditions-là ??