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8 hours ago, ERJ-Boy said:

Je ne sais pas... "A new megaproject for the city"... Ça sonne comme quelque chose de majeur et de game-changer. 

After Turcot, Bonaventure and the Champlain Bridge, I don't think the traffic situation in this city can handle another megaproject.....

Historically though Waldorf + Astoria hotels are relatively low rise.  Now granted there are some exceptions to that rule like Chicago and Panama but this hotel chain isn't known for going high; they want to keep their exclusivity and that means not packing hundreds of rooms into a hotel in a smaller city like Montreal.  

If I had to guess if W+A did end up building here, they would go 20 floors or less or take up a section of a larger complex like Four Season is doing.  

14 minutes ago, UrbMtl said:

Je suis certain qu'il ne s'agit pas du design final. C'est le même que lors des présentations de l'OCPM je crois. 

Attendons une mise en vente ou un lancement officiel. 

If anything the final design will look worse.  Remember, this is Devimco, the pioneers of the infamous "Griffintown Grey" trend that has been infecting the city's architectural landscape.  

8 minutes ago, _mtler_ said:

cutting-edge vision for revitalizing this outstanding site.

Thanks Devimco, you made me spit coffee all over my keyboard with that utterly preposterous statement!  

Cutting edge...now with 100% more "Montreal Greige"

2 hours ago, mtlurb said:

Exactement!

C'est incroyablement pénible le quartier industriel, différente contrainte sur la circulation sont imposés pour diverses raisons, qui en bout de compte nuisent au quartier dans son ensemble.

No better (but smaller) example of this can be found in Vaudreuil.  Long ago the city approved an industrial hub of sorts bordered by the 40, 30 and Montee Cadieux.  Because of that the amount of truck traffic has essentially destroyed Joseph Carrier, causes massive traffic jams around the traffic circle next to the highway and has contributed to the degradation of Harwood.  IMO its time the location of these logistics "hubs" is studied more thoroughly.  

If this is going to be a true hub for trucking, etc. Saint Laurent desperately needs to address local infrastructure (particularly access to / from the 40 through side streets) before it is complete.

Personally I liked the scale of the Victoire project.  This is one of those transition areas between old and "new" Montreal where I believe a mid-tier building would be better suited versus a 120M...but that's just me.  

You know, I was firmly in this guy's corner.  His support for Montreal chefs, the outrage at the backwards dealings of the government and Joël Robuchon, his almost single-handed determination in revitalizing his little nook of Pointe St Charles....and the list goes on.  

Now his so-called "Love Letter to Toronto" comes out and to me at least he comes off as yet another 1980's era anglo (like myself!) who refuses to acknowledge the successes this city has seen over the last decade or so.  Let's call him a horse with blinders on.  He doubled down in an interview with CBC as well.   

I'll be completely honest; I DO think Toronto is the great Canadian food city for a number of reasons.  He is 100% right in that.  I have no problem with that at all.  What I take insult in is how he goes about extolling Toronto's virtues while going out of his way to slag Montreal.  I feel statements like this are completely unjustified, have no bearing on the health of our restaurant industry and simply validate the ill-founded and completely false preconceptions of Montreal by the Rest of Canada.  

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I feel we may have lost the title in Montreal, due perhaps to the great exodus of corporations moving out to the greener pastures of Toronto

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There haven't been many new restaurants. As far as competition, there hasn't been much growth

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I'd say these days it's a hard city to live in. There's definitely corruption, definitely crumbling infrastructure, definitely lots of mismanagement of public funds, but not really incredible growth over the years.

Maybe I feel a bit too passionate about this since McMillan is a kind of hero to me; a guy who defended his city, his ideals and his neighborhood with every breath.  I'm shocked since it seems so out of character; not to love another city's food scene since I'm in agreement with that part. Rather he did so while making broad and contrived statements about this city.    

Also to say that there haven't been many new restaurants that offer competition over the last few years is incredibly snobbish and shortsighted.  I'm hoping the guys from newcomers like Hvor, Tiradito,  Agrikol, Candide, Le Fantome, Foxy, Hoogan and Beaufort, Le Mousso,  Provisions, Montreal Plaza and so many others bring this guy behind the woodshed and give him a stern talking to about the realities of this city outside his two-resto fiefdom.  

/ end rant  

This is finally a project with that "human scale" everyone is talking about.  Screw those canyons people on this forum love, this seems to be a great combination of quality of life, green space and scale.  

The ghetto comes to Griffintown.  

I love the "Bonjour" personally.  With that being said if you read articles in today's papers, it seems there's already massive push-back from the Taxi drivers' union....quelle surprise....

http://affaires.lapresse.ca/economie/immobilier/201704/06/01-5086005-la-hausse-du-prix-des-proprietes-saccelere-a-montreal.php

 

 

 

Je tiens à préciser qu'il y a moins de maisons unifamiliales en pourcentage dans la région de Montréal que partout ailleurs en Amérique du Nord, incluant Toronto et Vancouver. Donc si spéculation il y a ici, elle sera encore plus forte.

13.8% is the national average.....so we are just above that. Nothing shocking there.

Maybe some of that billion bucks those bastards stole from us could be put back into subsidizing the ticket prices.

I have to say, I'd rather spend the $85USD per ticket on the New York Formula E event over the $217 per ticket on this thing. Not only will the NY race be in a MUCH better location (right along the Hudson) but their standard grandstands are better positioned than the ones in Montreal.

Good news for real estate and the economy but bad news for affordability.

As we have seen in Toronto and Vancouver in the late 90's and early 2000's what typically happens is the first purchases are made on million dollar+ single home properties and then secondary purchases for children are made closer to universities in the downtown core.

It was only a matter of time before overseas investors opened up to the fact that Montreal with its highly regarded universities (specifically Concordia and McGill) is an amazing value compared to other locations. If anything this trend will change the cultural balance in Montreal in the mid to long terms.

Wow. This is looking amazing.

The only thing that bothers me about these types of projects is their long-term status. Getting it approved and built is one thing but actually maintaining them in the long run seems to be a challenge for the city. There have been numerous park & public space renovations in Montreal that are overgrown by weeds and look dilapidated after a year.

Woah calm down While it is true that policital stabillity is a key factor in attracting foreign investments, there are other causes to all this development...

 

I don't think another government would be such a threat to the city's fortunes in the short to medium term

 

However, so far polls have been pretty good for the PLQ, so we'll see!

Actually, ANY type of political stability is good for investment; be it a majority government vs minority, etc. etc.

LOVE the white inserts. It's a fabulous departure from the boring curtain walls of other buildings.

Another thing they need to do is PROPERLY continue the service road between Ste Marie and Morgan.

Traffic circles and Quebec don't mesh well together either. Just ask the folks stuck in the daily gridlock getting out of Vaudreuil.....

I agree. Let the city know, they will send someone over to take measurements and you may be able to log a complaint.

One option is to get very thick "blackout" style curtains for the windows. In my old apartment I found they filter out a good amount of noise but they MUST be floor to ceiling.

I'm not surprised about the noise. Curtain walls are terrible at filtering sound....

http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1025329/le-rem-va-couter-beaucoup-plus-que-prevu-aux-contribuables

 

Meh, encore une incompréhension journalistique sur les "dépassements de coûts".

Because clickbait titles are more important than journalism these days.

Look earlier in the thread. There will be paint to do the pattern...

You are saying that PREFAB concrete panels will be PAINTED after their installation? Am I the only one who thinks that sounds nuts?

Once again a building that deviates from the renderings. Whatever happened to the black / grey pattern?

Une extension vers Vaudreuil serait un terrible gaspillage d'argent.

 

Il y a même pas 50,000 personnes qui vivent là et ils ont déjà un train de banlieue. En plus, la station Ste-Anne du REM va quasiment juste servir aux gens de Vaudreuil.

It depends. If the 2nd or third phase can be rolled into the eventual replacement of the Pont Île aux Tourtes and have a station + parking somewhere off of Joseph Carrier or Dumberry, it could effectively serve quite a few incoming and outgoing passengers.

^ no way, the density is great. hopefully, this dense construction occurs on the other side of bleury too, all the way to the UQAM campus. you may be forgetting that, in addition to all the extra units on the market (higher supply = lower rents), these decidedly non-luxe apartments are more affordable by design.

 

you personally may not want to live there for lack of view or light, but many people will want to because it's cheaper than a place with a view and ample light.

No, the density is terrible, specifically when there are local areas prime for development that are being left vacant due to misplaced zoning laws.