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  1. right, but it's a chinese company, it would be logical, when purchasing the site, to also purchase the architectural plans and to continue to work with the local firm. hiring a new firm to redesign, when there's no fundamental shift in project parameters, i guess i see it as a little unusual.

  2. ^ no, i meant that they should have funding in place, not that the stations must be included in the first phase (which will be the southern branch). the tunnel will not be closed once the train line opens, this means that any future construction will be much more expensive, as it will occur around a regular train schedule. this, in turn, means that it is less likely to happen, particularly given the fact that the caisse will not benefit from those stations as much as it does from simply dumping their clients onto the metro at bonaventure. so, we should wait until funding is secure before allowing the line to move forward on the northern portion of the line to ensure that the two stations are built.

     

    the addition of those two stations makes this line a dream come true. without them, it'll cram the orange line and provide no good to montreal other than airport access for those who must take the metro (ie. airport workers).

  3. the north branch of the line should not be allowed to proceed until funding is secured for mcgill and edouard montpetit stations. if the caisse is allowed to build without those stations, they will not include them down the line - there will be no financial incentive, as they'll be dumping their entire ridership onto the orange line at bonaventure station. without those stations, montrealers will not benefit from this line at all, zero, aside from easier airport access, only suburbans and the caisse will. in fact, our metro system will be worse because of the extra passengers pushed onto the orange line. our governments will be handing the caisse billions of dollars, expensive rail infrastructure, and providing a net positive only for commuters into montreal. with those stations, we've effectively built the metro red line, with quick movement for our northern neighborhoods (and maybe one day, ndg and montreal west, and the stations out to anjou) into the CBD.

     

    these two stations are essential and the northern branch of the line should not proceed until we have funding lined up for them.

  4. both of those sites primed for the next cycle, when demand is a little more sophisticated. once the buildings currently under construction in the faubourg-des-récollets and victoria square (also bonaventure and more griffitown), this victoire will be a very likely project to move forward. the new proposals around the QdS, the bell center and near to sainte cath (tom, altitude, drummond, ogilvy, crescent, bishop st, etc) and the alcan proposal, all those these man the stanley street tower a solid bet moving forward. more solid, for instance, than the various projects presented around guy street.

  5. ^ why? it's across from the alcan project, which will eventually work (and which in the meantime provides a small park), it's near two universities, elite shopping district, great amenities, the metro, etc. it's a great location and a nice building. the only issue has been management and financing - if that's sorted, tant mieux.

  6. au drummond on est à 146/211. only the worsts lower floors and the largest higher floors remain - typically the most difficult to sell. greenlobster, as usual, is correct that this is -- surprisingly and suddenly -- selling well. the developer starting sales this fall on the second tower is great news, great news.

  7. everyone knows that if these stations are not built with the tunnel modifications, they will not be built. the caisse should start work on the south short line into bonaventure station, but should not build begin work on the tunnel until they have a funding commitment from our governments on mcgill and edouard montpetit. if that delays the project by a year, so be it. it is the difference between an integrated montreal public transit system providing REM-metro transfers on all three lines, and a suburban system that dumps people at bonaventure and crowds the orange line to insanity. without those stations, the caisse is taking billions in public money and valuable rail infrastructure (which foils a downtown connection to quebec and toronto on HSR, incidentally), taking a profit on the suburbans and externalizing the costs onto our metro system. without the green and blue line connections, it's a bad plan for montreal! with them, it's fantastic.

  8. And the most annoying thing is that our political leaders (and many on this board) are treating this project like a gift from the caisse and not a multi-billion dollar public investment, in which we cede valuable infrastructure to the caisse.

     

    We have the right, the duty, to demand a project that works for us, not just a project that delivers the return the caisse wants. Construction should not begin in the tunnel until funding is secured to build the McGill and Edouard Montpetit stations, it's that simple. If they're not built with the project, they'll never be built.

  9. ^ why? CF will work in its own time. and in the meantime, there are many other projects across the city that are much more important to the city's fabric. you think montreal needs new modern office space? candarel alone has three sites were it's looking for tenants (at the PDA and phillips square) that would add more to the city than this suburban style drive-in office plan they have down over the ville marie. you want apartments? icone, yul, roccabella and the drummond all have second phases, along with a dozen other high end towers proposed within a 12-15 minute walk of windsor station, and all of those would do more for the urban realm and businesses and the rest. what's so important about quad windsor aside from the skyline and that it's on an empty lot? personally, i'd prioritize filling the giant holes in the QdS and other areas that people actually live/work/play over a tower built in a wasteland.

  10. Le projet est presque terminé, si ce n'est pas déjà fait à présent.

    Vraiment désolé pour vos yeux, mais j'ai trouvé quelques photos récentes de la chose.

     

     

    Pas croyable comme projet. C'est tellement absurde que j'aime un peu ça.

     

     

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    ( Source : http://www.loeuf.com/projects/bois-ellen-cooperative-housing-laval/?lang=fr )

     

    looks cool.

     

    skymtl: you're an idiot. first of all, this is a home for old people and those with disabilities, those are never "ghettos." second of all, that part of laval is as far distant from london as any place in quebec. it's practically rural. third, the superblock ghettos of the 1960s-70s were the product of an entire ecosystem of political and socio-economic relationships that no longer exists. if this were truly in the esprit of that era, it'd involve a much more generous welfare state, different architecture/planning, and a host of race/class issues that are alien to us today.

     

    there's this moronic idea that putting lower income people in high rise buildings means crime and anarchy, but it's just not true. those were different people acting in different times with difference motivations and incentives. and plus, these are elderly and disabled people!

     

    basically, your comment is "a clunky building commissioned by the government = failure." n'importe quoi

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