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  1. On 3/10/2018 at 6:02 PM, Rocco said:

    We are lucky to have experienced decades of economic morosity. It saved the city!

    During the North American economic booms of the 80s and 90s (which Montreal totally missed out on, by the way), developers were already doing very well at preserving historical architecture and respecting zoning and building codes.

    Montreal is not lucky for having experienced economic turmoil during much of the late 20th century.

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  2. On 12/5/2017 at 5:41 PM, IluvMTL said:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/world/canada/bonjour-hi-quebec.html?smid=tw-share

    The New York Times

    CANADA | MONTREAL JOURNAL

    Quebec Tries to Say Au Revoir to ‘Hi,’ and Hello to ‘Bonjour’

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    Wilensky’s Light Lunch in Montreal. Quebec’s legislators last week unanimously passed a resolution calling for shopkeepers to stop saying “Bonjour hi” when they greet customers and to say “Bonjour” instead.CreditRobert Wright for The New York Times

    MONTREAL — A customer at a pet shop in Napierville, Quebec, once threatened to complain to the province’s French-language watchdog agency because a parrot called Peek-a-Boo refused to speak French.

    In an episode known as “Pastagate,” the agency — which staunchly defends the French language in Quebec — told an Italian restaurant in Montreal that it had violated the law by using the word “pasta” on its menu rather than translating it into the language of Voltaire.

    But the latest example of this long-simmering culture war here in Quebec happened just last week, when provincial legislators unanimously passed a resolution calling for shopkeepers to stop saying “Bonjour hi” when they greet customers and to say simply “Bonjour” instead.

    The backlash was immediate and is still reverberating.

    In Quebec, a former French colony that was ceded to Britain in 1763 after Britain defeated France in the Seven Years’ War, questions about language and identity run deep. Montreal, which has a sizable English-speaking minority, has long been a flash point.

    Language laws make French the official language of government, commerce and the courts in the province. Commercial advertising and public signs must be in French and if another language is added, French must be “markedly predominant,” at least twice as large as other languages.

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    To help safeguard the French language, children of immigrant families are required to attend French schools.

    Yet Montreal remains a swaggering multicultural city where French and English often co-mingle. Many among the young generation of Quebecers, reared on a steady diet of American popular culture and English-language social media, switch easily between the two languages.

    Walk into a boutique or restaurant in downtown Montreal, and there is a decent chance the shopkeeper will say, “Bonjour hi!,” a hybrid greeting that reflects the cosmopolitan city’s vaunted bilingualism.

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    Downtown Montreal viewed from Parc Mont-Royal. Use of French as the prominent language in the workplace has dropped by 2.3 per cent over the past decade. CreditRobert Wright for The New York Times

    This custom has irked members of the Parti Québécois, a party that has advocated for an independent Quebec. And so it sponsored a motion in Quebec’s legislature inviting “all businesses and workers who enter into contact with local and international clients to welcome them warmly with ‘Bonjour. ’” And just “Bonjour.”

    The motion, which is not legally enforceable, passed on Thursday, 111 to 0.

    No sooner had its ink dried, though, some shopkeepers lashed out at the effort to police language, even as supporters said the move was necessary to help preserve the province’s cultural identity.

    Over the weekend at Giant bike shop, in a bilingual neighborhood in west Montreal, a group of French-speaking bike enthusiasts discussed the challenges of winter biking, with French and English rolling off their tongues with the ease of a gear-switch on a bicycle.

    “It is absurd,” Olivier La Roche, a French-speaking Quebecer who runs the shop said, referring to the resolution. “What are they going to do, come into my shop and arrest me for how I greet people?”

    He said he routinely greets customers with “Bonjour” but switches to English if the customer is a native English speaker.

    “I am a proud Quebecer,” he continued. “But we are in a free country and this is business and it comes down to the customer. We should be allowed to greet people how we like.”

    Others who favor the “Bonjour hi” combination turned to social media to vent their frustration.

    “I’m a French-Canadian bilingual hostess in a restaurant and it’s the first thing I say when I greet customers,” Maude Lussier-Racine, wrote on Twitter. “It’s not irritating, it’s respectful for everyone. Stop trying to make us do what you want and go do something else more important.”

    Proponents of the motion say French Canadians have every reason to be concerned about preserving the French language at a time of globalization, when English is the lingua franca of the world. After all, the younger generation of Quebecers could easily be tempted to say “email” rather than “courriel,” its French Canadian equivalent.

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    The J. Schreter store in Montreal. On commercial signs, French must be at least twice as large as other languages. CreditAlexi Hobbs for The New York Times

    The Office Québécois de la Langue Française, the watchdog agency, has sought to fend off Anglicisms creeping into the French language by coming up with alternatives. But it recently allowed “grilled cheese,” “softball,” and “drag queen” to enter daily usage in an apparent nod to the idea that language is organic and evolves.

    It has now been deemed acceptable in everyday usage to use “cocktail” instead of “coquetel” and baby boom instead of “bébé-boum.”

    In introducing the “Bonjour” resolution, Pascal Bérubé, a leading member of the Parti Québécois, said that the “Bonjour hi” greeting was an “irritant,” and that using “Bonjour” was a reminder that Quebec was a French-speaking province. Quebec politicians may have received inspiration from across the Atlantic in France, where the failure to greet a stranger with a hearty “Bonjour” can invite icy silence.

    Party officials also justified the motion by citing recent census data showing that the use of French as the prominent language in the workplace has dropped by 2.3 percent over the past decade, even as bilingualism at the office had grown — evidence, they say, that the French language could be endangered.

    Writing in Le Journal de Montréal on the day the resolution was passed, Josée Legault, a leading columnist, argued that the failure by the Quebec political class to protect the French language was a “revolting phenomenon” at a time of encroaching bilingualism. She called on Quebec’s politicians to wake up before it was too late.

    In another convulsion over language, an uproar erupted last month when Adidas opened a flagship shoe store in Montreal and its Francophone manager gave an introductory speech mostly in English. Quebec City’s mayor, Régis Labeaume, called the omission “scandalous,” while others threatened to boycott the store. Adidas apologized.

    Bill Brownstein, a veteran columnist for the Montreal Gazette, an English-language newspaper, said seizing on the language issue reflected a desperate effort by the Parti Québécois to try and grab attention at a time when nationalism is waning and it was trailing in the polls ahead of provincial elections next year.

    But he stressed that the old and emotive debates over language were dissipating as economic imperatives trumped nationalism.

    “Language is always a Pandora’s box in Quebec,” he said. “But today’s young Quebecers are more interested in making money. The language wars have been won.”

    Follow Dan Bilefsky on Twitter: @DanBilefsky.

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    LOL

  3. 51 minutes ago, MtlMan said:

    Ok, so let's stop all development in town because the city doesn't need more revenues. That's an argument for betting against Royalmount?

    I can understand mobility issues, environmental, social, commercial, etc. But this....

    You'll need better than that, I'm afraid.

     

    I am pro this development...

    I just don't use development as an excuse to give more money to the government.

  4. 1 minute ago, MtlMan said:

    It's not because we should better manage it that we could not do with more revenue!

    I don't see the relevance.

    The government doesn't need more money. If it needs/wants more money, it needs to prove that it can better manage the funds it already has before I even think/consider giving it more.

  5. 11 minutes ago, Rusty said:

    Jaïe ca quand un projet est annoncé et ca dit Hôtel ....., mais ca dit rien dautre ... cest facile dire Hôtel just pour remplir ... dit moi le nom ... même chose pour le projet childre:confused:n’s 

    It's hard to give a name of a hotel chain before the hotel piece itself is approved for construction. Basically, major hotels like Holiday Inn, Marriott, Sheraton, Hilton, etc are all franchises. Someone would need to invest in opening up a hotel of one of those chains. At this point I'm going to assume that someone either hasn't decided to invest in opening up a hotel yet, or they have but haven't decided which brand they would open.

    With that being said, a hotel of this size and in this part of the city would probably be a "flagship" brand hotel such as Holiday Inn, Marriott, Hilton, Sheraton, etc or a more budget/classic brand such as "Courtyard" or "Hilton Garden Inn". The Luxury Hotels and Boutique Hotels are usually reserved for the downtowns or very touristy areas.

  6. 12 minutes ago, fmfranck said:

    Quelqu'un à qui tu parles : "J'ai vraiment faim!"
    TokiK : "T'as "vraiment faim"? Ah ouais? T'es tu déjà perdu dans le sahara pendant une semaine!? Ça c'est avoir vraiment faim!"

    I would agree - you're not really hungry unless you've been lost in the Sahara without food or water for a week.

  7. il y a 34 minutes, jesseps a dit :

    If you saw my previous post, I would like to see this get built.

    My comments weren't specifically directed to you.

     

  8. 1 hour ago, jesseps said:

    Pollution, loss revenue for the city of Montreal, potential for loss of jobs at Rockland and the list continues. 

    We will see how the new mayor handles this.

    If Rockland became a relic of the past, they could turn the whole thing into a multi level indoor green house. More local produce.

     

    LOL

    Firstly, the city of Montreal doesn't need more revenue...it needs to better manage the money it already has and collects. More money to our local government is rarely a good thing - better management of it always is.

    Secondly, the potential loss of jobs at Rockland would be more than offset by the creation of new jobs at Royalmount. Seriously, who stops a new development because of the "potential" loss of jobs somewhere else?

    In addition, if Rockland were to become a relic of the past, who said that's a bad thing? Jobs will be created in new locations. Stores will open up in new locations. Seriously, who came up with this notion that everything needs to stay the same?

    If Rockland became a relic of the past, they can tear it down and build housing on top of it. There's already a shortage of housing in the center of the Island of Montreal. An increase in supply can moderate housing/living costs, to the benefit of literally anyone looking for decent housing.

    Thirdly, pollution...well...if you're inferring that development should be stopped because of "pollution" (and what do you mean by that exactly? Do you mean the creation of more pollution? Do you mean the spreading of pollution from one area to another?)...then I guess we can all go back to living in trees and caves.

    This thread and the comments I am reading on it are very amusing. Keep it going guys!

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  9. I don't see the point nor the necessity of having all buildings look the same. What's nice about university campuses, such as McGill, Loyola, UdeM, etc. is the mix of building designs, marking the eras of growth, from the philanthropical investments of the early part of the 20th century to the publicly-funded construction in the latter half, to today's sustainability-minded era of university expansion and renewal. Hall represents the birth of Concordia, bringing together SGW and Loyola.

     

    The look of the GM and Hall Buildings are nothing to write home about...I would much rather see them renovate or reclad those buildings then keep them the way they are now.

  10. Prices out of Plattsburgh and Burlington are so cheap compared to Montreal-Trudeau, it's no wonder these 'US Montreal Airports' are doing so well. Another attractive aspect of flying out of Plattsburgh or Burlington is the fact that these are relatively small airports with absolutely no delays or wait times due to security checks, customs, etc. Plattsburgh International Airport is only one hour from downtown Montreal (not taking into account the wait at the border). If marketed properly, Montrealers are going to flock to Plattsburgh to catch their flights to Florida or wherever.

  11. Good point Habsfan, however...

     

    1) Northeastern US cities (New York, Boston, Philadelphia) tend to have large Puerto Rican/Latin American populations...perhaps Spanish would be more useful in everyday life over there.

    2) The US has been improving and increasing their ties to Latin American countries for a while now, i.e. Mexico and Colombia. Sure, France and Canada have always had a close relationship with the USA, but there are more Spanish-speaking Mexicans in Mexico than there are French-speaking people in France and Canada combined! And we're not even including the millions of other spanish-speaking people in Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, Argentina, etc. For our Hemisphere, Spanish would have to be more dominant than French.

    3) Americans are more likely to travel to destinations such as Tijuana (#1 Destination for Americans), Cancun, Punta Cana or Cabo San Lucas than they are to Montreal, Quebec City or even Paris!

    4) Finally, what other Francophone nations, besides Canada and France, does the US have close ties with? I can't really think of any!

     

    Is it unfortunate? Look, the more languages you know, the better. But whether you know English and Spanish, English and French, German and Spanish or French and German, it's all the same to me.

     

    Personally, I think French is one of the most useful languages in the world.

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