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You think Montreal has it bad. Munich they can't build higher than 100 meters because of their main Cathedral.

 

It still didn't stop them from taking the top spot on Monocle's world cities list. Montreal makes the list, when New York and London don't.

 

Anyway, all those people who bitch and moan about our so-called "lack" of height suffer from a condition akin to penis envy... I've said time and again that no one in their right mind would judge a city from the way it looks miles away. The above example reinforces my point.

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It still didn't stop them from taking the top spot on Monocle's world cities list. Montreal makes the list, when New York and London don't.

 

Quite true :)

 

I am surprised San Francisco has yet to make it onto the list. I guess there is some reason why it hasn't been chosen.

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I've said time and again that no one in their right mind would judge a city from the way it looks miles away. The above example reinforces my point.

 

I disagree somewhat. You can judge a city from miles away. It depends on what you are judging. If I look at mtl from far I see a modest city with no new skyscrapers. I would think that it is a city that is economically challenged with limited investments.

This is not the impression I get from viewing Calgary from afar. I can immediately judge by it's skyline that it is much more prosperous than Montreal and I would be right.

However, mtl is a much more culturally vibrant city with tremendous potential and hardly has any drawbacks when people view the city from within it's boundaries.

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Quite true :)

 

I am surprised San Francisco has yet to make it onto the list. I guess there is some reason why it hasn't been chosen.

 

High crime, high cost of living (although for Monocle this probably isn't an issue), throngs of aggressive homeless people, an inconsistent transit system.

 

But I still love that city to death.

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I disagree somewhat. You can judge a city from miles away. It depends on what you are judging. If I look at mtl from far I see a modest city with no new skyscrapers. I would think that it is a city that is economically challenged with limited investments.

This is not the impression I get from viewing Calgary from afar. I can immediately judge by it's skyline that it is much more prosperous than Montreal and I would be right.

However, mtl is a much more culturally vibrant city with tremendous potential and hardly has any drawbacks when people view the city from within it's boundaries.

 

:relieved: On peut effectivement porter un jugement sur une ville en évaluant l'importance et le nombres de ses immeubles en hauteur, mais on aura un aperçu extrêmement vague et non pertinent de sa qualité de vie qui relève d'une foule d'éléments complètement invisibles à distance.

 

Et je crois que cette évaluation, dont il est ici question, m'apparait juste et relativement équitable si je regarde la liste des villes qui en font partie.

 

Cependant je sympathise avec ceux qui déplorent l'inexistence de projets majeurs d'édifices en hauteur à Montréal ou qui limitent leur satisfaction à ce seul critère. Malheureusement ils sont condamnés à l'insatisfaction perpétuelle car il ne semble pas que la ville priorisera, pour toutes sortes de raisons, ce genre de développement dans un avenir prévisible.

 

Non qu'il n' y aura pas de constructions importantes mais pour tous ces gens c'est le nombre qui compte, en étages ou en quantité, et il sera toujours limité. Remarquez que je serais le premier à me réjouir d'un ou plusieurs nouveaux immeubles qui dépasseraient les 60 étages, surtout si leur design est de grande qualité. Mais ceci n'aura certainement qu'un impact négligeable sur la qualité de vie générale de la ville et de sa réputation dans le monde.

 

D'ailleurs cela n'aura jamais aucun effet notable sur la liste des villes mentionnées de ce magazine spécialisé, toutefois un bon réseau de tramway, invisible à distance, lui nous ferait certainement gagner des places dans le décompte.

 

Comme quoi tout est relatif dans la vie, et que souvent les choses intangibles contribuent davantage au bien-être collectif, que les objets matériels aussi impressionnants soient-ils. Je prend pour exemple Paris dont le quartier de la Défense visible à très grande distance ne compte aucunement dans le coeur des parisiens dont ils se désintéressent complètement.

 

C'est pourtant un quartier impressionnant mais hyper bétonné, écrasant, sans charme, isolé de la ville et loin, autant physiquement que psychologiquement, de l'idée que les résidents ou les touristes se font du vrai Paris. On aura beau en rajouter, personne n'en parle et même une majorité de français ignore délibérément son existence.

 

Il est éminemment facile de construire en hauteur, on le fait un peu partout dans le monde et même dans des endroits insoupçonnés. Cependant bâtir une véritable qualité de vie dans une ville donnée (même très riches) relève du défi que peu de villes réussissent effectivement à accomplir. Et s'il y a une liste qui compte véritablement pour moi, c'est bien cette liste où j'espère que Montréal figurera toujours.

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High crime, high cost of living (although for Monocle this probably isn't an issue), throngs of aggressive homeless people, an inconsistent transit system.

 

But I still love that city to death.

 

You're right about the aggressive homeless people. I thought Montreal was bad, but some parts of SF are somehow worse (particularly around Fisherman's Wharf area).

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High crime, high cost of living (although for Monocle this probably isn't an issue), throngs of aggressive homeless people, an inconsistent transit system.

 

But I still love that city to death.

 

Yah I forgot about the homeless people. Not sure how its like like 10 per street corner :/

 

As for the transit system, cant say much about it I go from the airport to Union Square and yet to have a problem lol

 

Last time I was in SF was back in December 2008 and the night I got there I was in a middle of a riot :stirthepot:

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