mont royal Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Lets look at the scenario from the point of view of a, not so hypothetical, NIMBY complainer. I am a middle class house owner. The house is my main ticket to an affordable retirement. I bought the house after much consideration, based on the zoning laws, facilities, ambiance etc.. Some time later, thanks to collaboration between promoters and the municipal government, the rules are changed and it is obvious that it will have a negative impact on my quality of life, as well as on my assets and, inevitably, on the quality of my retirement. I complain. Maybe with several of my neighbours who are similarly affected. We are dismissed as NIMBYs; as being selfish; as not caring about the general good; as not representing a majority view. "Just NIMBYS... again." Not worthy of discussion. Personally I find that dismissive attitude as reprehensive. If I am simply dismissed as a NIMBY by my fellow citizens, citizens whose life is not affected personally by the decision, they carry little credibility in my eyes. If my government argues that 'this decision is for the good of the broader community and your selfish attitude will not change our thinking' , an attitude that I saw reflected in your original comment...then, to put it mildly. I will not be a happy camper. Yes, these kinds of decisions have to be made every day; yes, some people will be negatively impacted; but to not take into consideration the negative impact of some peoples lives, is unacceptable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator mtlurb Posted September 18 Administrator Share Posted September 18 À noter que Breeze commencera une liaison Plattsburgh (aéroport montréalais aux US)- Orlando en novembre. Publié le 13 septembre 2023 à 05:00 IMAGE FOURNIE PAR L’AÉROPORT DE SAINT-HUBERT Une idée de ce à quoi ressemblera le futur terminal de l’aéroport de Saint-Hubert. Aéroport de Saint-Hubert Un concept qui pique la curiosité de Breeze L’arrivée d’un aéroport secondaire à Montréal-Trudeau en banlieue sud de la métropole pique la curiosité de Breeze Airways. Ce n’est pas demain la veille que ce transporteur américain à bas coût se posera à Saint-Hubert, ce qui ne l’empêche pas de se rapprocher du marché québécois. JULIEN ARSENAULT La Presse Fondée par David Neeleman – qui a aussi participé au lancement de transporteurs comme JetBlue et WestJet –, l’entreprise espère convaincre les Québécois qui souhaitent s’envoler vers la Floride de traverser la frontière. À compter du 28 novembre, trois vols hebdomadaires seront ainsi offerts depuis l’aéroport de Plattsburgh à destination d’Orlando. Téléchargez gratuitement Tarif de lancement : 160 $ pour un aller-retour. Le modèle de Breeze mise sur les aéroports secondaires, où les redevances aéroportuaires sont moins élevées. Cela permet à l’entreprise de réduire ses coûts et d’être très compétitive sur le prix des tarifs aériens. Selon M. Neeleman, le transporteur américain devrait obtenir l’autorisation d’effectuer des liaisons internationales vers la fin de l’année. Le genre de projet envisagé à Saint-Hubert, où la construction d’une nouvelle aérogare a débuté, cadre dans la stratégie de Breeze. « Si nous pouvions le faire [atterrir] aujourd’hui et que c’était permis, cela permettrait au moins d’attirer notre attention », a répondu le chef de la direction de Breeze, lorsqu’interrogé sur les contraintes actuellement en vigueur au Québec. Obstacle d’envergure En vertu de son bail avec Transports Canada, Aéroports de Montréal (ADM), l’exploitant de Montréal-Trudeau et de Mirabel, bénéficie toujours d’une clause d’exclusivité pour les vols internationaux jusqu’en 2072. Un avion qui décolle de Saint-Hubert ne peut donc pas transporter des passagers vers les États-Unis ou les destinations soleil. Il n’en reste pas moins que les commentaires de M. Neeleman signalent que le terminal en construction à Saint-Hubert, qui ne prévoit pas de douanes pour l’instant, pourrait générer de l’intérêt à l’extérieur du marché canadien. « Nous sommes toujours ouverts à évaluer de nouvelles occasions, dit le patron de la compagnie américaine. Tout est une question des coûts qui y sont associés. » Piloté par Porter Airlines, le terminal en construction à l’aéroport de Saint-Hubert est estimé à 200 millions en incluant l’hôtel Holiday Inn de 130 chambres qui doit aussi être construit à proximité. Il devrait être achevé d’ici la fin de l’année 2024 et comprendra neuf portes d’embarquement. À terme, le complexe devrait pouvoir accueillir plus de quatre millions de passagers annuellement. L’expansion de l’aéroport de Saint-Hubert ne fait pas que des heureux, puisque la question du bruit généré par le trafic aérien suscite de l’opposition dans le secteur. Moins que prévu Breeze est l’un des principaux clients nord-américains de l’A220 d’Airbus – l’ex-C Series de Bombardier. Le transporteur s’est engagé à acheter 80 appareils A220-300. Les 16 premiers exemplaires ont été livrés, et l’entreprise en attend quatre autres d’ici la fin de l’année. Les difficultés d’approvisionnement qui ralentissent les livraisons des avionneurs comme Airbus se reflètent chez Breeze. La croissance du transporteur aérien ne devrait pas trop en pâtir, selon M. Neeleman. « Nous devrions recevoir 12 A220 supplémentaires l’an prochain, affirme l’homme d’affaires. Ça devait être 15 avions, mais ça sera 12. Notre croissance sera un peu plus lente, mais ce n’est pas une mauvaise chose dans l’environnement actuel. » À la fin d’août, Airbus avait remis 37 exemplaires de l’A220 à des clients, soit sept avions de plus qu’il y a un an. L’accélération de la cadence de production, essentielle à la rentabilité du programme, semble donc se concrétiser. BREEZE AIRWAYS EN BREF Début des activités : 27 mai 2021 Chef de la direction : David Neeleman Flotte : 33 appareils (17 Embraer 190 et 195 et 16 A220) Destinations aux États-Unis : 35 EN SAVOIR PLUS 18 septembre Date à laquelle Breeze offre son tarif de lancement depuis Plattsburgh. BREEZE AIRWAYS 125 kilomètres Distance entre le centre-ville de Montréal et l’aéroport international de Plattsburgh. LA PRESSE https://apple.news/AnRsqkD-SS1mhrCeJu3Ttmw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SameGuy Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 "Montreal's US airport" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SameGuy Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 With all the challenges facing YUL at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised to see legacy carriers also adding flights at PBG. BTV is great but it's two hours away; Plattsburgh is less than an hour for many Montrealers, which is shorter than the traffic on the 20 and 520 west most afternoons. I think the first legacy carrier to add flights at PBG with efficient connections to where Montrealers want to go will snag a lot of traffic, and do so with lower costs and landing fees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator mtlurb Posted September 18 Administrator Share Posted September 18 il y a 25 minutes, SameGuy a dit : "Montreal's US airport" On their site: https://www.flyplattsburgh.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator mtlurb Posted September 18 Administrator Share Posted September 18 il y a 21 minutes, SameGuy a dit : With all the challenges facing YUL at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised to see legacy carriers also adding flights at PBG. BTV is great but it's two hours away; Plattsburgh is less than an hour for many Montrealers, which is shorter than the traffic on the 20 and 520 west most afternoons. I think the first legacy carrier to add flights at PBG with efficient connections to where Montrealers want to go will snag a lot of traffic, and do so with lower costs and landing fees. I took PBG a few times, and parking costs also way less, (8USD last time Ive been) and everything is much simpler in the terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SameGuy Posted September 18 Popular Post Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, mtlurb said: On their site: https://www.flyplattsburgh.com Mad Dog Vachon flies out of Plattsburgh 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 il y a 31 minutes, SameGuy a dit : Mad Dog Vachon flies out of Plattsburgh Donc, c'est une vieille photo!😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKYMTL Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I can confirm....I used Plattsburgh three weeks ago for a business flight. Here's the comparison to the exact same situation & location from two weeks beforehand leaving from YUL. I live in Vaudreuil so you can imagine where this is going. YUL to PHL 7:50AM flight with American Leave home at 5AM Sit in traffic for the Ile aux Tourtes bridge for +/- 60 minutes (that was a good day) Hit the Dorval Circle (pre-booked parking at the HotelParc) and gridlock. Even via Cardinal "back" way. Park at ~7:00. Barely make my flight even with Nexus since customs was insane too. If the flight hadn't been delayed by 15 mins who knows what happens. It was hell. And my situation isn't a one-off either. PBG to PHL 8:00AM flight with Contour Leave home at 5AM Take highway 30, no traffic at border. End up being at the airport at around 6:30AM Had time to have a coffee, catch up on emails and relax a bit. So basically I could get to an airport in the USA, park, get to my gate and relax in LESS time than it took to get to my parking spot at YUL. Not to mention it cost significantly less money plus free EV charging at the Plattsburg airport. If I factor in the time of the flight, I could have hopped in my car and driven more than half way to Philly in the time it took between my house and getting there via YUL. If there was an airport with more flight options within 2 hours of me, I'd ditch YUL and never look back. That's why I'm really crossing my fingers for YHU. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator mtlurb Posted September 19 Administrator Share Posted September 19 il y a une heure, SKYMTL a dit : I can confirm....I used Plattsburgh three weeks ago for a business flight. Here's the comparison to the exact same situation & location from two weeks beforehand leaving from YUL. I live in Vaudreuil so you can imagine where this is going. YUL to PHL 7:50AM flight with American Leave home at 5AM Sit in traffic for the Ile aux Tourtes bridge for +/- 60 minutes (that was a good day) Hit the Dorval Circle (pre-booked parking at the HotelParc) and gridlock. Even via Cardinal "back" way. Park at ~7:00. Barely make my flight even with Nexus since customs was insane too. If the flight hadn't been delayed by 15 mins who knows what happens. It was hell. And my situation isn't a one-off either. PBG to PHL 8:00AM flight with Contour Leave home at 5AM Take highway 30, no traffic at border. End up being at the airport at around 6:30AM Had time to have a coffee, catch up on emails and relax a bit. So basically I could get to an airport in the USA, park, get to my gate and relax in LESS time than it took to get to my parking spot at YUL. Not to mention it cost significantly less money plus free EV charging at the Plattsburg airport. If I factor in the time of the flight, I could have hopped in my car and driven more than half way to Philly in the time it took between my house and getting there via YUL. If there was an airport with more flight options within 2 hours of me, I'd ditch YUL and never look back. That's why I'm really crossing my fingers for YHU. I am thinking of taking Contour in October for a quick trip to Philly,... so it sounds like totally worth it... and you didn't mention the price which is almost 65% less of a trip from Montreal (and save on the parking too). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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