How should Six Flags fix LaRonde?

[SupremeMTL]

Hey guys its me again back with another poll here,

This one should not come as a shock to most of you here on this forum; but LaRonde has been kind of decrepit the last few years. All Six Flags seems to be doing is re painting the rides every few years and recycling rides from other parks and adding them to LaRonde. I want to find out what the community thinks are solutions that could potentially fix LaRonde. I grew up going to the park but everybody and their mother has rode Goliath, Vampire, and Monster at this point, and I just wish we got something new and exciting to keep things fresh. Yes LaRonde is getting Vipere, the first 4D coaster in Canada but i feel as if Six Flags is just using that to distract us from the state of the rest of the park. Yes i know that Six Flags hands are tied with the middle of the park (Lac des Dauphins) due to the fireworks festivals in the summer but what could be done about the rest of the park? Even when Six Flags added Goliath, park attendance did not increase all that much.  

Thanks for reading and I can't wait to hear your responses!

Regards,

SupremeMTL 

[Malek]

I would say renovate and make it more modern. When I went last year, I felt that it didn’t change since when I was 15. And that was a long time ago lol. I don’t want to feel like i am going to a backward place when I live in a world class city. 
You gotta invest money to make money. 

[GDS]

Not enough population or attendance to make it attractive. Magic Kingdom has a higher attendance in two weeks than LaRonde over the year.

 

[ToxiK]

Il y a 2 heures, GDS a dit :

Not enough population or attendance to make it attractive. Magic Kingdom has a higher attendance in two weeks than LaRonde over the year.

 

In 2018, the 4 parks at Walt Disney World in Orlando had a little over 58 000 000 guests.  In comparaison, Expo 67 got 50 000 000 visitors over 50 years ago... in 6 months.  Of course, Expo 67 was a special one year only event (and it was much more than just La Ronde), but it shows that Montréal can also get outstanding numbers, and that La Ronde can do much better than it does now.

La Ronde should clean up it's act and improve its operations.  It looks like the goal is to minimize the costs, not to improve effiency (permitting more people to ride faster), nor to improve guests satisfaction.  It acts like the monopoly it is and does as little effort as possible to attract people because the profits to effort ratio is adequate for them.  It is like a certificat de placement garanti; you just sit there and make a very little profit but it is enough because you make no effort and don't take any risk.

[vincethewipet]

La place ressemble souvent à un parking dans lequel on a lancé quelques manèges. Le prix ne permet plus aux familles d'y aller souvent, surtout en fonction de la qualité de l'expérience. La bouffe sur place est mauvaise. 

1) avoir une thématique forte sur l'aménagement. Que ce soit agréable s'y promener, donner quelque chose de "magique" et intéressant aux enfants. C'est pas juste les manèges qui font une expérience, c'est un tout.

2) Avoir une structure de prix abordable pour les familles d'ici.

3) Avoir une offre de restauration contemporaine.

[Djentmaster001]

10 hours ago, GDS said:

Not enough population or attendance to make it attractive. Magic Kingdom has a higher attendance in two weeks than LaRonde over the year.

 

Just a heads up, but La Ronde gets 1.25M people and not 1.81M like this chart says. I'm an investor in SF and get the real numbers in the annual reports to shareholders. As for how to improve the park, well, they won't be getting a world class coaster like Levi, YS or MF anytime soon (plus there's a height limit here, hence why Goliath is only 175ft). This is also due to the park not being known as a park where you'll get ROI that amusement park chains expect. If a park spends $30M on a new coaster, they expect a ROI of $15-$18M in the first year, and La Ronde will never be able to accomplish this. When they added Goliath, attendance went down, same with Ednor. There's a reason why this park is getting its first coaster in TEN years. So ways to improve it? well, staff are lazy, operations are horrible, the park is disgusting and needs a huge infrastructure upgrade, add shade. La Ronde won't see a coaster bigger than Goliath at all (unless a miracle happens) so they should continue adding thrill rides and compact coasters (RMC Raptor, Premier Launch coasters) in addition to infrastructure upgrades. The staff needs training on how to use their brains and to get faster at operations. Also, gate prices are $70! lol, I can get two day tickets at Canada's Wonderland for $73 with taxes and fees in. This park is overpriced and has two good coasters and 3 or 4 solid rides, not worth it. 

[Malek]

il y a une heure, Djentmaster001 a dit :

Just a heads up, but La Ronde gets 1.25M people and not 1.81M like this chart says. I'm an investor in SF and get the real numbers in the annual reports to shareholders. As for how to improve the park, well, they won't be getting a world class coaster like Levi, YS or MF anytime soon (plus there's a height limit here, hence why Goliath is only 175ft). This is also due to the park not being known as a park where you'll get ROI that amusement park chains expect. If a park spends $30M on a new coaster, they expect a ROI of $15-$18M in the first year, and La Ronde will never be able to accomplish this. When they added Goliath, attendance went down, same with Ednor. There's a reason why this park is getting its first coaster in TEN years. So ways to improve it? well, staff are lazy, operations are horrible, the park is disgusting and needs a huge infrastructure upgrade, add shade. La Ronde won't see a coaster bigger than Goliath at all (unless a miracle happens) so they should continue adding thrill rides and compact coasters (RMC Raptor, Premier Launch coasters) in addition to infrastructure upgrades. The staff needs training on how to use their brains and to get faster at operations. Also, gate prices are $70! lol, I can get two day tickets at Canada's Wonderland for $73 with taxes and fees in. This park is overpriced and has two good coasters and 3 or 4 solid rides, not worth it. 

When I see a gate price almost the same as a whole season pass... it rings all kind of bells in my head lol. 1) the daily entrance is not worth that much and 2) most probably I won’t go back to la ronde because it’s not worth two visits. Great job La Ronde. 

[Erikyo]

Again, I don't like to see La Ronde being compared to parks such as Canada's Wonderland, Magic Mountain or the likes of Cedar Point or Great Adventure ... I mean, those are amongst the top coaster parks on the planet. Also, I don't mind La Ronde getting coasters that comes from elsewhere because they all do it. Copies of coasters such as Vampire and Boomerang are also widely present on other parks. Now, what La Ronde should do is replace La Pitoune with another water ride and fill the empty space left by Cobra!

[WestAust]

Price wise daily rates are too high, however with season pass prices (that also includes admission to any six flags park) is great and that makes it an "affordable" activity for families. I buy season passes for my whole family, costs me slightly over 200$, i get free parking and once a year we drive down to SF Great Escape in Lake George and we enter and park free. There is definitely value to the season passes without needing to go 5-6 times a year to break even.

As for the park itself, a good cleanup, refurbishment of the site, fresh coat of paint on many areas, improve the food offering, fix the damn rides that only have 2-3 vehicule riding (bobsled one and the train in the children section comes to mind) to increase capacity, that should be done before adding a new coaster

 

[rockstardude450]

Fill the unuse lake and add new thrill ride