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Also the proportion of part-time jobs in Quebec is higher than in other provinces, so many of our jobs here are actually poor low-wage jobs.

 

Pas nécessairement. C'est que le Gouvernement du Québec est un peu con. Il préfère avoir 70 000 fonctionnaires dont beaucoup travaillent à temps partiel, plutôt que d'en avoir 50 000 qui travaillent à temps plein. Prenons par exemple, les infirmières. Elles travaillent toutes à temps partiel, mais elles font toutes du temps supplémentaire, ce qui revient à dire qu'elles font autant d'argent que si elles étaient payées à temps plein.

 

Mais sinon, je n'ai jamais entendu parler d'emplois à temps partiel plus élevé au Québec qu'ailleurs.

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Pas nécessairement. C'est que le Gouvernement du Québec est un peu con. Il préfère avoir 70 000 fonctionnaires dont beaucoup travaillent à temps partiel, plutôt que d'en avoir 50 000 qui travaillent à temps plein. Prenons par exemple, les infirmières. Elles travaillent toutes à temps partiel, mais elles font toutes du temps supplémentaire, ce qui revient à dire qu'elles font autant d'argent que si elles étaient payées à temps plein.

 

Mais sinon, je n'ai jamais entendu parler d'emplois à temps partiel plus élevé au Québec qu'ailleurs.

 

Look at the Statcan figures. It's all there.

 

Here's the thing about part-time vs full-time jobs... full-time jobs often provide additional benefits, insurance, dental, pensions, etc. Full-time high-paying jobs allow people to put money away, invest and ultimately accumulate wealth.

 

People living on part-time jobs and low-paying jobs will meet their day-to-day needs but never allow for the generation of wealth.

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Les lignes à haute tension partent actuellement d'aussi loin que LG-4 et distribuent de l'électricité à tout le Québec. Jamais je croirai que nous ne sommes pas capables de nous rendre dans la mégalopole atlantique américaine (comprenant des villes telles que Boston, Hartford, Providence, New York, Philadelphie, Baltimore et Washington, en ajoutant leurs banlieues et les régions autour).

 

Le hic c'est que les Etats-Unis, ce n'est pas nous, et ils ont un grand hard-on pour "energy independence"... pour penetrer le marche on devrait etre capable d'exporter d'electricite a un tres faible prix tout en restant rentable. Ce, quand il implique le construction des nouveaux barrages est un defi. N'oubliez pas les pressions des groupes environmenteurs amerloques durant le dernier construction de... La Grande et les protestations des amerindiens... meme le barrage sur la Romaine est une pilule difficile a faire avaler malgre que le projet soit un bon.

 

What's the biggest city in Newfoundland? Fort McMurray! :rotfl: I kid, I kid, I love the Maritimes... for visiting :) You hear the problems in Scotia Nova, they elected an NDP government for the first time, 1 month later big corruption scandal, everyone buying generators, TV's, custom furniture for their "office" on taxpayer dollars and bringing them home, giving them to friends, and now an 18 billion dollar deficit :rotfl: Just like Bob "Photo Raedar" from Ontario, fuckin' NDP it is like committing suicide, Einstein said something about doing things over and over again :D

 

Look at the Statcan figures. It's all there.

 

Here's the thing about part-time vs full-time jobs... full-time jobs often provide additional benefits, insurance, dental, pensions, etc. Full-time high-paying jobs allow people to put money away, invest and ultimately accumulate wealth.

 

People living on part-time jobs and low-paying jobs will meet their day-to-day needs but never allow for the generation of wealth.

 

You need a high salary to create wealth, since your job creates wealth, and if you don't get paid much, it is because the value of the work is very low... there is not much value-added by packing the bags at Steinberg (LOL they don't even give you a bag anymore! And Steinberg has been dead for a long time too...)

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New technology allows us to move electricity great distances. The U.S. is also investing in its grid. Distribution wouldn't be a major concern.

 

LOL what technology? There is nothing new, twinkle twinkle little star, power lost due to transmission is I squared R :)

 

I mean superconductor, sure, but I don't think there is anything practical enough to be used for this application. All you can do is make bigger and more cables.

 

There is a "maitres chez nous" invention of course with HQ's development of 735 kV power lines. But even then, that is so much voltage you can't run that in a populated area.

 

And don't forget the high price of copper and the people always stealing the copper. The National Post has a nice article on that in yesterday's paper, and a few idiots broke into a transformer substation and tried to steal the wires... zzzzaPPP! Ontarians, what can you do with them :rotfl:http://www.nationalpost.com/risky+allure+copper/3481960/story.html

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LOL what technology? There is nothing new, twinkle twinkle little star, power lost due to transmission is I squared R :)

 

I mean superconductor, sure, but I don't think there is anything practical enough to be used for this application. All you can do is make bigger and more cables.

 

There is a "maitres chez nous" invention of course with HQ's development of 735 kV power lines. But even then, that is so much voltage you can't run that in a populated area.

 

And don't forget the high price of copper and the people always stealing the copper. The National Post has a nice article on that in yesterday's paper, and a few idiots broke into a transformer substation and tried to steal the wires... zzzzaPPP! Ontarians, what can you do with them :rotfl:http://www.nationalpost.com/risky+allure+copper/3481960/story.html

 

Electricity can be transmitted cost-effectively up to 7,000 km. That's more than enough distance to supply Americans with our power.

 

And yes, superconductor.

 

Here's an overview from WP. The technology exists and it's already being developed for widespread use.

 

High-temperature superconductors promise to revolutionize power distribution by providing lossless transmission of electrical power. The development of superconductors with transition temperatures higher than the boiling point of liquid nitrogen has made the concept of superconducting power lines commercially feasible, at least for high-load applications.[25] It has been estimated that the waste would be halved using this method, since the necessary refrigeration equipment would consume about half the power saved by the elimination of the majority of resistive losses. Some companies such as Consolidated Edison and American Superconductor have already begun commercial production of such systems.[26] In one hypothetical future system called a SuperGrid, the cost of cooling would be eliminated by coupling the transmission line with a liquid hydrogen pipeline.

 

The bottom line is this: We don't have oil in Quebec, but we have the next best thing: abundant clean electricity. Why don't we capitalize on it? Do you honestly believe we shouldn't? We have the means...

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C'est justement, j'essaie de le comprendre. Je ne vois pas ce qu'il représente mis à par le PIB des provinces. De toute façon, cet article là dit tout : http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/81056/un-quebec-souverain-degagerait-un-surplus-de-cinq-milliards

 

The separatist PQ puts out a study that shows a separated Quebec would be rich with surpluses and all its problems would go away.

 

SHOCKING NEWS!

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