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Cette ancienne église transformée en centre communautaire est à l’abandon depuis longtemps. La voici endommagée par un effondrement, elle sera probablement démolie dans un proche avenir.











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Avant de pleurer sur ce bâtiment, regardez ce qu’ils en ont fait au fil des ans, c’est vraiment affligeant. Il est toujours possible de le recycler mais à quel prix?








Et une photo prise l'an passé à pareille date.



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J'ai bien aimé explorer ce building il y a quelques années. Très impressionnant et quasiment mystérieux à l'intérieur.

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Dommage, avec tous ces ajouts et modifications, ça semble un bâtiment vraiment intéressant.

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AKA the Coursol Methodist Church.




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Two enormous backhoes began tearing down the Negro Community Centre in Little Burgundy, Thursday at 7 a.m. — the final chapter for a historic building that housed a church, a community centre and dance classes.


The pincer-like jaws of the backhoes pulled down steel beams, and brick and drywall followed.


Many of the pieces of building material that crashed to the ground were charred, testament to a fire years ago in the long abandoned building. The water damage from fire hoses added to the general decay that beset the building on Coursol St.Any stained-glass windows the church had at one time have long gone, replaced with graffiti and plywood. Those, too, were ripped down by the hoes.


“I’ve been watching it deteriorate for 20 years, and I don’t think it could have been saved,” said Hugh Ball, who lives in a condo behind the church.


“You would have had to tear it down to the ground to even think about rebuilding and they had zero money to do anything.”


In the late 1980s, Ball remembers reggae dances held in the church where the music would blast through the walls and across the parking lot to his home behind.


No so much for the past two decades.


Squatters, graffiti, water damage and a leaking roof, the former Church was beset with all the ills of a rundown building in a formerly poor part of town.


“I have been terrified, living next door, of a fire or the collapse of the wall that happened last spring,” Ball said.


The west wall of the church crumbled April 13 because of structural weaknesses caused by water damage and a rotten foundation. When it fell, every floor of the building was left open to the elements.


The Negro Community Centre filed for bankruptcy protection May 5 saying that the cost of repairs after the wall fell down would be too great.


“Sure it’s sad to see it come down, but it hasn’t been a community centre in a very long time. The community it served doesn’t live here anymore,” Ball said.


“I heard they had a reunion and it was held in Angrignon.”


Several blocks away, the Tyndale St-Georges Community Centre has picked up the ball for the Little Burgundy neighbourhood with after-school programs and activities for children and adults alike.


“I read that the zoning for this building is for a community centre, so I’d love to meet with the new owner, we could always use more classrooms and space,” said Tyndale development fund officer Susan Bell, standing on the snowy sidewalk and watching the demolition.

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You're right. Couldn't find it on google. Also it's not in Saint-Henri...


Mods please merge but also the thread title should be updated with the dates and probably the english name.

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