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While salary is a big factor for doctors leaving Quebec to practice elsewhere, restrictions on where they can work is probably just as big of a factor. Currently, the system in place limits the amount of doctors that can practice in Montreal, based on needs decided by the government. Those not chosen are obliged to work in the regions, or face a salary decrease (up to 30% I believe).

Some might ask why this system is a problem, since doctors are paid by the government and their education is subsidized by the government, then they should be obliged to work where there is a need. Let's leave aside that Montreal is in fact one of the worst served areas by GPs in Quebec, and that many people who don't live in Montreal but commute in for work see doctors near their place of work. In my opinion, there is something fundamentally wrong with forcing a professional to set up practice away from their families and professional contacts. It's in fact almost communist in nature, if you think about it. Is it any wonder that someone who doesn't get one of these Montreal "Prems" would consider moving out of Quebec? Combined with higher salary prospects and lower taxes, it's a very appealing option. It may be more common among english speaking doctors, but not at all exclusive.

 

For the stats above that state that most McGill med students leave after graduation, this can be misleading. Many will go elsewhere for residencies and then possibly return. Some who studied outside Quebec come here for residencies and also will stay. And many from the other 2 medical schools in Quebec will do the same, particularly if they are pursuing a super-specialized field. I will agree that more McGill med student leave than is desirable. But remember that it is all too easy for doctors to practice in different provinces and in the US. Like I said, money isn't everything, professional opportunity isn't everything, quality of life isn't everything, but when combined, it can be a powerful motivation for a doctor to leave Quebec, regardless of their linguistic background. My opinion is as someone in this field.

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D'autres resultats aujourd'hui

 

Selon la carte des donnés sur la perception des tolerances culturelles:

Chez les francophones, 37% pensent que le PQ essaie de décourager les non-francophones de démeurer au Québec, versus 43% qui ne pensent pas.

 

Cela veut dire pour moi, que beaucoup de francophones tirent les memes conclusions que dans mon post plus bas.

http://www.cbc.ca/montreal/features/stay-or-go/poll-key-facts-dashboard/

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<<...Ils disent qu’on peut juger une société par la façon dont elle traite ses minorités. Une seule partie politique ne représente pas notre société, mais on peut comprendre pourquoi ces genres de propos font réagir des minorités et peuvent leur donner l’impression qu’ils ne sont pas des partenaires égaux de notre nation. >>

 

 

 

Comme on dit en bon Québécois, ce qui est vrai pour minou devrait l'être pour pitou. Pourquoi les minorités francophonnes hors-Québec ne se voient pas attribuer les mêmes traitements ou privilèges que la minorité Anglo-Québécoise ?

 

 

C'est une question de réciprocité minimale. De plus, j'imagine mal les Anglo-Québécois accepter de se faire restreindre leurs droits avec la clause du «là où le nombre le justifie».» Cette clause a d'ailleurs permis à plusieurs provinces de déroger aux obligations de la Constitution canadienne.

 

Rappel <<En 1982, le Canada a adopté une nouvelle constitution: la Loi constitutionnelle de 1982. Les circonstances dans lesquelles fut adoptée cette nouvelle constitution dans laquelle est enchâssée la Charte des droits et libertés sont lourdes de conséquences. La Constitution a été approuvée par neuf provinces anglaises et le gouvernement fédéral, et ce, sans le consentement du Québec. Néanmoins, selon la Cour suprême du Canada, le Québec est lié juridiquement par la Loi constitutionnelle de 1982.

Comme exemple de dissension nationale et de concurrence législative, on ne pouvait trouver mieux: un gouvernement fédéral à majorité de langue anglaise qui, avec l'appui de neuf provinces de langue anglaise, demande à un Parlement étranger de langue anglaise celui de Londres (par obligation constitutionnelle) de réduire, sans son consentement, les compétences du seul gouvernement de langue française en Amérique du Nord.>>

 

Pour nous, il ne s'agit pas d'impression, mais d'une question de fait . En effet, nous ne sommes pas des partenaires égaux. Mais malgré tout, on chouchoutte bien notre minorité Anglo-Québécoise.

 

Ps.: la constitution de 1982 a même enterré la notion de Confédération de 1867. Désormais nous sommes une fédération que sur papier!

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S'ils croient trouver le bonheur, la fortune , la prospérité et tranquillité sous d'autres cieux... Eh bien! grand bonheur leur fasse! Mieux vaut vivre heureux que malheureux . On ne retient personne. Après coup on bâtira avec ceux qui ont choisi ou qui choisirons le Québec. Y a quand même une limite à crier aux loups. Voilà!

 

Y a un moment donné on en a assez de se faire chier par le gouvernement du Québec. J'ai même pas pu renouveler mon assurance maladie dû à un problème incompréhensible d'une fonctionnaire twit de Québec. "Bien oui monsieur, vous allez devoir payer de l'impôt au Québec quand même!" Fec j'ai voulu donner pis c'est comme ça qu'on est traité! L'Ontario c'est merveilleux, tout est si simple dans la bureaucratie. Et oui, j'aime autant voyager de l'Ontario pis venir travailler à Montréal. L'avantage des deux mondes sans avoir à dealer avec le gouvernement du Québec.

 

Bref, quand t'as vécu ailleurs, tu vois encore plus comment l'ambiance est pourrie au Québec. Pis ton discours là, ça devrait pas être une profession de foi habiter au Québec, on devrait aimer ça!

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How can you even consider leaving when living in this city ?

 

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This city is about to go through some very very difficult and dark times. Very sad...

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you might not, but we'll eventually be crying when thousands of people leave for Ontario/Alberta - and we're left with stagnation and relative decline but methinks Rocco you're all about that. You don't seem to care that Montreal was once the focus of Canada, and now its #3/4

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