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à l’instant, Rocco a dit :

Et comment l'intérêt pour une équipe ici peut-elle être mesurée si c'est l'équipe d'une autre ville? Seigneur.

C est mon inquietude dans mon dernier post. le test est biaisé...

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Patrick Lagace is one of those inertia loving journalist in the Quebec media. Wish we would all rally around the huge opportunity this is for our city and our economy.  and that Quebec businessme

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Could baseball be on its way back to Montreal sooner than expected?

The Tampa Bay Rays have received permission from Major League Baseball to explore the possibility of playing early-season games in Tampa, but the remainder of the year in Montreal.

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The news was first reported by Jeff Passan of ESPN.

The plan is in its early stages, but the team sees it as a way to salvage baseball in the Tampa area when attempts to get a new stadium built have yet to find any kind of success.

Passan discussed the development with SportsCentre's Glenn Schiiler Thursday afternoon.

 “You know, the Rays for a decade now have been trying to get a new stadium down in the Tampa St. Pete area. They play in Tropicana Field. It’s old, it’s kind of dingy, it’s not exactly the most atmospheric baseball stadium out there and they just have not gotten anywhere. And so I think this is partially a leverage play but I also think they really deeply do believe that something like this could actually work which would keep baseball in the Tampa Bay area and would also bring baseball back to Montreal," Passan said.

Rays owner Stu Sternberg weighed in on Passan's report on Twitter, seemingly confirming the plan.

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"My priority remains the same," Sternberg said in a statement, "I am committed to keeping baseball in Tampa Bay for generations to come. I believe the concept is of serious consideration."

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#Rays plan for Montreal already appears near death. St Pete Mayor Rick Kriseman says he told team he would not grant permission for talks with Montreal. Rays have use agreement with St Pete until 2027.


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But things may end up being quashed before they even get off the ground.

St. Petersburg, Fla., mayor Rick Kriseman said in a statement that he told the team he would not grant permission for talks with Montreal considering the Rays have a use agreement with St. Pete until 2027.

"The Rays cannot explore playing any Major League Baseball games in Montreal or anywhere else for that matter prior to 2028, without reaching a formal memorandum of understanding with the City of St. Petersburg," he said in a statement. "Ultimately, such a decision is up to me. And I have no intention of bringing this latest idea to our city council to consider. In fact, I believe this is getting a bit silly."

He added: "Major League Baseball may have given the approval for exploration of this concept, but for us in St. Pete, sharing this team with Montreal is not an option on the table."

The plan would call for new stadiums in both of Tampa and Montreal. If the Rays were to play only early-season games in Florida, then it would remove the need for a dome and cut down on potential stadium costs. Tropicana Field was built in 1990. In Montreal, Stephen Bronfman - son of former Expos owner Charles - has an agreement in place with a local developer to potentially build a new park in Point-Saint-Charles.

The Rays' lease on the Trop runs through 2027 and any such plan with Montreal would be contingent on local stadium plans.

Despite currently occupying a playoff spot, the Rays have the league's second-worst attendance averaging 14,546.

When asked if the proposal helps or hurts Montreal's chances of one day getting a team back full-time, Passan had this to say.

 “I think it could do nothing but help, honestly. Let’s say hypothetically that this fails – just throwing it out there because it’s certainly a distinct possibility. There are a lot of needles to thread to make this work. If this fails, it is not going to fail on account of Montreal’s effort. Stephen Bronfman is in on this and the fact that they have a deal in place to at least put a stadium in a particular neighbourhood in Montreal right now is further along than the Rays have gotten in a decade trying to find things down in Florida. 

"And the fact that Major League Baseball’s owners and the executive council at the owners’ meetings this week essentially rubberstamped Montreal as a possible destination for he Rays to go shows me that if they can’t get something done in Florida, you wonder if they just relocate the entire franchise and all 81 home games and all 162 games for the whole season off to Montreal," he said.

Toronto Blue Jays manager Charlie Montoyo offered his opinion on the matter later on Thursday.

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Montoyo, who played for the Expos in 1993 and spent four seasons on the Rays coaching staff, said that it would be "awesome" to have baseball back in Montreal, but he questioned the logistics of the operation.

Montreal has been without baseball since 2004 when the team moved to DC and became the Washington Nationals ahead of the 2005 season. The Toronto Blue Jays have played an annual spring training series at Olympic Stadium since 2014.

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On Twitter, from Tampa Bay journalists and the St Petersburg mayor:

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#Rays plan for Montreal already appears near death. St Pete Mayor Rick Kriseman says he told team he would not grant permission for talks with Montreal. Rays have use agreement with St Pete until 2027.



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Le maire de St Petersburg semble être le seul pourvu de common sense dans ce dossier. Bronfman a l'air de courir après 50 lièvres à la fois. Imaginer une équipe à deux villes, le gars manque clairement de jugement!

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Que ferait-on s'il y a des matchs de séries?  On dit qu'il fait trop froid comme en début de saison et on les joue à Tampa?  Montréal devrait supporter l'équipe durant le plus gros de l'année mais donner à Tampa la période la plus intéressante de la saison?

Selon moi c'est pour mettre de la pression sur la ville de Tampa et les forcer à décider si oui ou non ils veulent construire un nouveau stade.  Ils pourraient pousser la tactique au point de jouer une saison ou deux avec garde partagée au Stade Olympique avant de décider s'ils gardent l'équipe à Tampa (et ouvrir la porte à une expansion à Montréal si l'expérience a été concluante) ou bien si l'équipe déménage pour de bon à Montréal.  La construction d'un nouveau stade pourrait se faire durant cette période si Montréal à l'assurance d'obtenir une équipe d'expansion si les Rays retournent à plein temps à Tampa.

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Les riches investisseurs qui souhaitent doter Montréal d'une nouvelle franchise professionnelle devrait plutôt concentrer leurs énergies vers la NBA. Ma réflexion n'est nullement influencée par le vent de folie qui a traversée le Canada d'un océan à l'autre avec la victoire des Raptors de Toronto en finale de la NBA. Le basketball est un sport qui connait une popularité grandissante année après année partout à travers la planète. Le baseball a ses adeptes certes, mais le basketball est plus spectaculaire, l'intensité de ce sport nous rappelle le hockey, sport tellement vénéré au Québec. Les jeunes d'aujourd'hui sont en amour avec la NBA et ses super stars. Promenez vous dans les rues de n'importe quelle ville tant au Canada qu'au USA et même en Europe pour constater le nombre incroyable de jeunes qui portent des casquettes ou des jerseys d'équipe de la NBA, à l'inverse on va voir très rarement ces jeunes arborer des produits de la MLBA ( baseball). On a en plein centre ville de Montréal,  près des hôtels, restaurants, boutiques ,stations de métro, autobus et de trains, le Centre Bell , un amphithéâtre parfait pour accueillir une équipe de la NBA.



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Il y a 3 heures, Matt a dit :

Une equipe de sport pour vivre a besoin de ses fans. Qui va vouloir supporter une equipe avec le nom de Tampa Bay a Montreal??!

J espere que s est plutot un test grandeur nature pendant une saison ou deux pour voir la réactivité et l'interet du marché ici à Montreal.


Il y a 3 heures, Rocco a dit :

Et comment l'intérêt pour une équipe ici peut-elle être mesurée si c'est l'équipe d'une autre ville? Seigneur.

En temps normal je serais d'accord avec vous, mais avec tous les gens qui comptaient pour Toronto ou San Francisco (NBA) ces derniers temps... faut croire que ce n'est plus trop un problème à notre époque.

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2 hours ago, man with the golden gun said:

Les riches investisseurs qui souhaitent doter Montréal d'une nouvelle franchise professionnelle devrait plutôt concentrer leurs énergies vers la NBA. Ma réflexion n'est nullement influencée par le vent de folie qui a traversée le Canada d'un océan à l'autre avec la victoire des Raptors de Toronto en finale de la NBA. Le basketball est un sport qui connait une popularité grandissante année après année partout à travers la planète. Le baseball a ses adeptes certes, mais le basketball est plus spectaculaire, l'intensité de ce sport nous rappelle le hockey, sport tellement vénéré au Québec. Les jeunes d'aujourd'hui sont en amour avec la NBA et ses super stars. Promenez vous dans les rues de n'importe quelle ville tant au Canada qu'au USA et même en Europe pour constater le nombre incroyable de jeunes qui portent des casquettes ou des jerseys d'équipe de la NBA, à l'inverse on va voir très rarement ces jeunes arborer des produits de la MLBA ( baseball). On a en plein centre ville de Montréal,  près des hôtels, restaurants, boutiques ,stations de métro, autobus et de trains, le Centre Bell , un amphithéâtre parfait pour accueillir une équipe de la NBA.



Please just stop. If you don't like the MLB thats your personal choice. Having the Montreal Expos back is a major boost for the cities touristic and hospitality sectors.

The NBA wants no business to be in Montreal.

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      She's right, of course, and during my two-day stay I'm determined see some "things fantastique" before hitting the ballpark.
      I begin by renting a mountain bike and pedaling straight to the top of Mont Royal, the dramatic, forested mountain (okay, a big hill) in the dead center of town that gives the city its name. A winding gravel road takes me through stands of Canadian maples to a beautiful summit park designed by Frederick Law Olmsted. It's odd to stand at the grassy pinnacle and be eyeball to eyeball with the tops of skyscrapers just 10 blocks away.
      On the way down, pausing for great views of the lovely St. Lawrence River, I pass a pair of oddly segregated cemeteries--one for French speakers, one for English speakers--a site that mutely summarizes the long-festering cultural divisions within Quebec.
      I pedal to the cobblestone streets of Old Montreal, a 40-square-block delight of colonial structures and alleyways filled with horse-drawn caleches and itinerant artists. A warm spring sun has unloosed crowds of diners on the city's Euro-gamut of outdoor cafes, bistros and restaurants. The legendary French Canadian reputation for highly developed leisure skills is on full display this Sunday afternoon amid a sea of white tablecloths and red wines so good that even the vin de maison is a pretty sure bet. I eat grilled salmon served rare with escargots on a bed of scallions and garlic, and nearly swoon.
      The next day is game day. I visit the Old Fort on St. Helen's Island, in the middle of the St. Lawrence River, before heading to Olympic Stadium. After the War of 1812, the British prepared for a possible American invasion of Montreal by building this moated fortress with eight-foot-long cannons and two-meter-thick stone walls. As something of an invader myself, I grow slightly self-conscious inside those walls. Maybe I'm paranoid, but the eyes of those period-dress sentries make me think they're onto me, pegging me as the expeditionary fingertip of Washington's long arm reaching up to snatch the Expos. I make a discreet but hasty exit.
      I arrive three hours before the game, leaving plenty of time to tour the flag-festooned Olympic Park. I buy a ticket for the highly touted gondola ride rising from the spine of Olympic Stadium. Photos of the 1976 Games ornament the waiting area: Nadia Comaneci, Kornelia Ender, Sugar Ray Leonard.
      But I soon learn something unexpected about myself: Facing backward in a gondola rapidly moving upward at a 45-degree angle makes me afraid. At the top, pale and sweating, I take in a dramatic aerial view of the famous Olympic Village, the Montreal Botanical Garden and the city's 1967 international Expo site.
      Back on terra firma, there's time for one more stop: Moe's Deli and Bar, where Expos fans gather. It's a friendly place with exposed-brick walls, barbecued ribs and desserts kept in an old phone booth by the bar. It's happy hour--two-for-one Labatt beers--till well past game time, perhaps to anesthetize the fans for the poor play sure to follow.
      I sit at the bar next to Daniel, a baseball-hatted Expos loyalist, who has a message for D.C. fans. "Don't accept our Expos," he tells me. "You've lost two teams of your own before, so you know what it feels like. Please don't do this to us."
      I grimace and finish my second Labatt and push back my stool while Daniel, like all Montrealers I meet, remains a friendly sport to the end.
      "When you reach the stadium," he says, "buy the cheapest ticket in the house. It's only $7 Canadian [$4.80 U.S.]. Then, after the first pitch, sit wherever you want."
      "A $7 seat, please," I tell the stadium ticket seller moments later, handing over my money. I walk through the turnstile, past the popcorn and pennant venders, toward Section 139, right field. Virtually alone in my area, I take in batting practice amid thoroughly modern trappings: artificial turf, a space-age stadium roof, a gargantuan replay screen in center field. But already it doesn't quite feel like major league baseball.
      First, of course, there's the ticket price, about a quarter of what you'd pay at Camden Yards. Then there's the action on the field. An Expos coach is pitching batting practice using a wobbly shopping cart full of baseballs, and he's throwing to the beat of French rock music blasting over the P.A. Thirty feet below me, two teenage boys are standing on a crude scaffold, diligently updating a sprawling pre-World War II-type wooden scoreboard that gives results from around the league. This old-fashioned work, utterly exposed to those of us in the cheap seats, involves taking scores from a press-box official, then reaching into several wooden troughs for wooden slabs hand-painted with numbers and sliding them into the appropriate slot. One of them wears a felt Gatsby hat.
      I exit the stands for a quick pregame bite. "One order of poutine," I tell the uniformed attendant at a concession stand. Poutine, a uniquely Quebecois concoction combining french fries, cheddar cheese and beef-stock gravy, is so popular that it's served at McDonald's restaurants throughout the province. I watch the cook in back combine the fries and cheese in a tall paper cup, then slop on a ladleful of thick gravy from a stainless-steel vat. He pauses and then, momentarily indecisive, adds a second, heaping ladleful.
      I'm back at my seat in time for the national anthem, spearing dripping mouthfuls of poutine with a fork. For extreme junk food, it's not so bad, though halfway through the serving my stomach begins making odd noises that compete with the junior high school band playing "O Canada" with tubas and French horns on the field.
      The Expos take the field next, and the crowd, sprinkled more or less evenly across the stadium, begins banging empty seats up and down in preparation for the opening pitch. Twenty-five-year-old Expos pitcher Mike Thurman is on the mound, and as he warms up you can almost sense the whole place cringe. With an 0-2 record and an ERA of 8.05, he's the worst pitcher on the second-worst pitching staff in the National League. Just two nights ago, Expos pitchers gave up 17 runs in a game.
      But the first pitch from Thurman is a strike on the outside corner, and cheers go up just as the strange migration begins. True to Daniel's prediction, everyone in the stands not already seated behind home plate makes a beeline for amazingly choice (and empty) lower-level seats just 20 rows from the field (above a narrow VIP section) in an arc from dugout to dugout. I grab the rest of my poutine and join the exodus. By the end of the first inning, we fans are huddled cozily around home plate.
      In the third inning, the Expos stage a mini rally. Third baseman Mike Mordecai lines a clean single to left, and the juices start flowing in the stands. I get caught up in the excitement--this is my team, too--so I stand and begin slamming the back of my chair and cheer madly like those around me. The noise coming from these fans is, no exaggeration, as much as I've heard from crowds four times as big in other parks. Despite the high-decibel support, the rally sputters when Thurman strikes out trying to lay down a bunt.
      Next to me, a serious fan named Jean Yves Leduc is studiously scoring the game. He says he's attended at least 40 Expos home games every year for the past two decades. He puts down his scoring pencil and reminisces about highlights, including the 22-inning game against Los Angeles in 1987 and the time he shook hands with third baseman Tim Wallach in the parking lot before a game. "I could feel all the calluses on Wallach's hand from taking extra batting practice every day," Yves says. "I'll never forget those calluses. He was so dedicated to this team and to the game."
      And what will Yves do if the Expos leave town?
      "I had a talk with my girlfriend," he says, "and I decided that, with all my new free time, I would just go ahead and get married and have a life."
      It's the top of the fourth when Thurman makes a mistake pitch and Phillies right-fielder Bobby Abreu lifts a second two-run homer into left field. Four-zip, Philadelphia.
      "One more Phillies run," mutters the old farmer next to me after removing his teeth, whistling and putting them back in, "and I'm going home to watch hockey."
      Halfway through the fifth inning, Yves gets into an animated conversation with a hot dog vendor. It's all in French, and they both laugh a great deal, and I ask Yves what's so funny. "The crowd's so small tonight that the stadium is telling all the vendors--when they go back for more hot dogs--to go home. They're getting paid for only half a game. But this vendor's decided to avoid the order by not going back to resupply. That way, he can at least get his base pay for the rest of the game."
      Sure enough, the vendor walks away with a smile, barking to the crowd, "No hot dogs here! No hot dogs! Pas de chiens chauds!"
      Unexpectedly, the Expos make a heroic comeback with three runs in the seventh, while a young relief pitcher called up from Double-A somehow keeps the Phillies scoreless. By the bottom of the ninth, the drama escalates. The Expos are down 4-3 with two outs and a man on second. First baseman Ryan McGuire, who has power, steps to the plate.
      We may be few, but we fans do our best. Youppi claps his hairy orange hands and directs our cheers to the field. Chairs are banging. The vendor has stopped not selling hot dogs and is rooting like everyone else. The scoreboard guys are smoking nervously, peeping through a hole in the outfield scoreboard. The guy with the false teeth, true to his word, has stayed to the end.
      On a 2-1 pitch, McGuire lifts a towering blast to left field. We jump for joy and cheer louder and louder. But the Phillies's left fielder refuses to give up on the ball. He drifts back, back, back and, incredibly, makes the catch standing against the outfield fence. Five thousand people collapse in their seats in anguish and disbelief.
      It was a good game, and the young Expos have no reason to drop their chins. But there is something very sad about the way these previously boisterous fans shuffle slowly out of the stadium. An unusually large number stop and linger at souvenir stands by the exit gates. Souvenir. A French word meaning "to remember." For many of these fans, this may very well be the last time they see their Expos. They buy hats, T-shirts, pennants. To remember.
      I take the Montreal Metro back to downtown thinking two things. First, I sincerely hope Montreal figures out a way to keep its team, and prosper, even if it means we in D.C. don't get one. Second, if the Expos do come to us, I can't wait for the day when I can take the Washington Metro to a baseball game with my son. I'll really show him how to make a stadium chair hum.

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