ville-marie Humaniti - 39 étages (2021)

[denpanosekai]

4 hours ago, go_habs_go said:

Nice shot...the only angle of the building that I really like.

Also: personal pet peeve, why does the city bother building cement walkways through the road when we all know they eventually get destroyed by our winters and snow removal operations? If you build it then maintain the darn thing, if not just leave it as asphalt and paint lines on it!!

What about these really shitty pavers just a couple blocks east?

Just a thought: does any of this have to do with the nearby Ville-Marie expressway? Bleury actually becomes a bridge after all.

[go_habs_go]

2 minutes ago, denpanosekai said:

What about these really shitty pavers just a couple blocks east?

Just a thought: does any of this have to do with the nearby Ville-Marie expressway? Bleury actually becomes a bridge after all.

Oh man those are even worse! Seriously what's the point of installing these things, they never last more than a few years. We're a nordic city with extreme winters.

[Dominic723]

il y a 2 minutes, go_habs_go a dit :

Oh man those are even worse! Seriously what's the point of installing these things, they never last more than a few years. We're a nordic city with extreme winters.

It's not much the ''extreme winter'' then the poor snow removal technique and the abuse of salt & sand put on it. It's not normal to have huge machinery removing snow in some places, and they go very fast and are not very delicate with stuff around them. There is paver since the begging of civilisation. Now in Montreal they are using a better technique to install them (concrete slab under them instead of just sand & rock fondation) I'm not sure the Quartier International was made with that technique.

For the cement walkway, they are probably old and they would need repair. Eventually the city is suppose to redo Bleury Street in a more ''fancy'' way, I hope from St-Antoine to Sherbrooke to have a nice north/south link downtown

[FrancSoisD]

On 2020-01-29 at 12:43 PM, Dominic723 said:

It's not much the ''extreme winter'' then the poor snow removal technique and the abuse of salt & sand put on it. It's not normal to have huge machinery removing snow in some places, and they go very fast and are not very delicate with stuff around them. There is paver since the begging of civilisation. Now in Montreal they are using a better technique to install them (concrete slab under them instead of just sand & rock fondation) I'm not sure the Quartier International was made with that technique.

For the cement walkway, they are probably old and they would need repair. Eventually the city is suppose to redo Bleury Street in a more ''fancy'' way, I hope from St-Antoine to Sherbrooke to have a nice north/south link downtown

They make a concrete foundation, which they then too with a thin layer of rock dust, and then install pavement pieces on top.

The problem is not so much the machinery used for snow plowing, as the excess weight of tractor-trailer and dump trucks, combined with repetitive frost and thaw episodes where water infiltrates between pavement pieces (same problem as with potholes), and then make them burst open when deep frost makes water expand volume by about 11%.

Winnipeg has partly solved this problem by building concrete arteries, yet they're way harder and costlier to fix than regular asphalt. My bet is that our arteries made of pavement pieces will ecentually cost a fortune to fix... ❄💦💰😩

[Mondo_Grosso]

[yarabundi]

Coudonc !! Est-ce devenu la norme à Montréal de laisser tous les éléments mécaniques apparents sur les toitures ?? Je comprend bien qu'une tour c'est une sorte de machine mais faudrait pas charrier !!

[budgebandit]

Trois options:

1. Apparent sur le toit

2. Au sous-sol, avec des persiennes au RDC

3. Dans un appentis mecanique, avec persienne au toit 

Ca depend des equipements; certaines unites performent mieux à l'exterieur, d'autres non. Ca depend aussi des couts que le proprietaire veut engendrés pour la mecanique du batiment.

Lots of factors to consider !

[Rocco]

34 minutes ago, yarabundi said:

Coudonc !! Est-ce devenu la norme à Montréal de laisser tous les éléments mécaniques apparents sur les toitures ?? Je comprend bien qu'une tour c'est une sorte de machine mais faudrait pas charrier !!

Du trottoir on voit rien. C'est assez rare que les gens se promènent en vaisseau volant.

[yarabundi]

Il y a 5 heures, Rocco a dit :

Du trottoir on voit rien. C'est assez rare que les gens se promènent en vaisseau volant.

Tu veux dire en avion et en hélicoptère ? C'est vrai que c'est rare de voir des aéronefs survoler la ville. Pis comme toutes les tours sont à la même hauteur personne ne voit jamais les toits des autres édifices. 

Sarcasme mis à part, on a souvent lu ici sur Mtlurb des commentaires sur les couronnements bâclés de plusieurs tours. Dans une ville que se targue d'avoir le titre de ville de design de l'UNESCO, on pourrait faire mieux. Un beau couronnement, c'est le signe d'un souci du détail. En architecture, les détails dans le design sont importants. Les tours les plus appréciées des Montréalais ont des beaux couronnements -ou du moins, des couronnements soignés. Nous n'avons qu'à penser à la tour KPMG, le 1501 McGill College, le 1250 René-Lévesque et plus récemment l'Avenue, la Tour des Canadiens, la tour Deloitte. 

[3dimensions]

Ce n'est quand même pas la faute de Mtl si l'UNESCO lui a donné le titre de ville du design... cet argument revient souvent quand vient le temps d'émettre des opinions négatives qui se disent être des critiques, mais dans les faits ce n'est pas un argument.

Modifié 5 février 2020 par 3dimensions