griffintown Griffintown et ses projets - Discussion générale

[jerry]

Je ne pourrai malheureusement pas y aller.

 

[jerry]

J'aime Griffintown

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Nouveaux parcomètres sur Peel entre Smith et Notre-Dame, sur Wellington entre Nazareth et Murray, sur Ann et Young... À partir du 21 novembre

 

[nephersir7]

Le skyline de Griffintown dans toute sa splendeur... Avec un brouillard en plus.

 

 

 

[Rocco]

Je regarde ces photos et je veux pleurer. C'est ça qu'on construit comme nouveau quartier à Montréal en 2016? C'est pas croyable. Pas croyable.

[deeworks]

Je regarde ces photos et je veux pleurer. C'est ça qu'on construit comme nouveau quartier à Montréal en 2016? C'est pas croyable. Pas croyable.

 

 

 

Je suis d'accord, je suis vraiment déçu du résultat global de ce nouveau quartier ça ressemble à une ZUP pour riche!! malgré de beaux projets comme yoo,brickfield et galery loft.

 

Enfait, c'est le mega projet de district griffintown qui est décevant.

[vivreenrégion]

Je regarde ces photos et je veux pleurer. C'est ça qu'on construit comme nouveau quartier à Montréal en 2016? C'est pas croyable. Pas croyable.

tu pensais qu'c'tait ça que c'tait mais c'tait pas ça que c'tait ? hen

[Newbie]

It is almost blasphemy to speak about street-level in this forum (I'm joking), but I believe Griffintown could become a great neighbourhood if it got some street-level love. And I'm not talking about restaurants or fancy shops, but nice sidewalks, nice street furniture, nice parks. I was disappointed to realize that most new Griffintown sidewalks are of horrible quality and horrible looks (just like most sidewalks in the island), and that no new street furniture was planned for the place. Sure, a couple of paths here and there are set to be renovated, but would it hurt to make the whole place look nice and special? It seems like Montreal, and maybe Toronto, are the only North-American cities where these things are not planned before redeveloping a neighbourhood. Any idea why this is?

 

[uPDATE] In case you're wondering what I'm talking about, check out this corner completely surrounded by new buildings. Look at the already chipped sidewalk (it actually chipped before the first winter after it was built! So no excuse, it's just terrible quality):*Google Maps

Move around and you'll see more of the same.

 

Now look at this spot on Seattle's South Lake, Another place where a bunch of new [not necessarily beautiful] residential buildings have popped up recently (thanks to Amazon):*Google Maps

Clearly the density is quite different, but in South Like, sidewalks were built at the same time as the neighbourhood was being redeveloped. The same thing is done in London, Barcelona, or New York. Why not in Montreal?

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[Rocco]

It is almost blasphemy to speak about street-level in this forum (I'm joking), but I believe Griffintown could become a great neighbourhood if it got some street-level love. And I'm not talking about restaurants or fancy shops, but nice sidewalks, nice street furniture, nice parks. I was disappointed to realize that most new Griffintown sidewalks are of horrible quality and horrible looks (just like most sidewalks in the island), and that no new street furniture was planned for the place. Sure, a couple of paths here and there are set to be renovated, but would it hurt to make the whole place look nice and special? It seems like Montreal, and maybe Toronto, are the only North-American cities where these things are not planned before redeveloping a neighbourhood. Any idea why this is?

 

Ça coute moins cher? Just sayin'..

[steve_36]

...... check out this corner completely surrounded by new buildings. Look at the already chipped sidewalk (it actually chipped before the first winter after it was built! So no excuse, it's just terrible quality):*Google Maps

Move around and you'll see more of the same.

 

Now look at this spot on Seattle's South Lake, Another place where a bunch of new [not necessarily beautiful] residential buildings have popped up recently (thanks to Amazon):*Google Maps

Clearly the density is quite different, but in South Like, sidewalks were built at the same time as the neighbourhood was being redeveloped.

 

To be fair, Griffintown is still a work in progress. There's so many construction sites, so many heavy machinery and trucks that it's not fair to judge the sidewalks, Streets/pavements or urban fixtures. There's no point in investing too much at this point, it will get damage very easily. The Seattle neighborhood you are showing is actually nice but it's in an area that appears to be completed which is not the case for Griffintown.

[vincethewipet]

It is almost blasphemy to speak about street-level in this forum (I'm joking), but I believe Griffintown could become a great neighbourhood if it got some street-level love. And I'm not talking about restaurants or fancy shops, but nice sidewalks, nice street furniture, nice parks. I was disappointed to realize that most new Griffintown sidewalks are of horrible quality and horrible looks (just like most sidewalks in the island), and that no new street furniture was planned for the place. Sure, a couple of paths here and there are set to be renovated, but would it hurt to make the whole place look nice and special? It seems like Montreal, and maybe Toronto, are the only North-American cities where these things are not planned before redeveloping a neighbourhood. Any idea why this is?

 

[uPDATE] In case you're wondering what I'm talking about, check out this corner completely surrounded by new buildings. Look at the already chipped sidewalk (it actually chipped before the first winter after it was built! So no excuse, it's just terrible quality):*Google Maps

Move around and you'll see more of the same.

 

Now look at this spot on Seattle's South Lake, Another place where a bunch of new [not necessarily beautiful] residential buildings have popped up recently (thanks to Amazon):*Google Maps

Clearly the density is quite different, but in South Like, sidewalks were built at the same time as the neighbourhood was being redeveloped. The same thing is done in London, Barcelona, or New York. Why not in Montreal?

 

C'est pas une hérésie, je suis 100% d'accord avec toi. On peut rendre un quartier super agréable malgré une architecture banale ou même laide avec un développement adéquat du domaine public! D'ailleurs, à une échelle locale ça se fait à Montréal quand même. Le Plateau développe beaucoup ses trottoirs et son mobilier urbain dans les secteurs qui étaient négligés, par exemple, et ça fonctionne. J'habite dans le secteur Saint-Viateur Est (qui est architecturalement médiocre), et les nouvelles saillies vertes, les trottoirs élargies les petites places publiques, les allées piétonnes, les terrains publics animées... C'est super. Et les gens sont beaucoup plus présents dans la rue grâce à cela, créant une belle atmosphère.

 

Pour Griffintown, ça va sûrement se développer... Par contre, il serait temps d'avoir un plan audacieux pour le domaine public. C'est bien beau aménager une rue en cul de sac pour les piétons, mais la circulation lourde de Wellington et Peel, par exemple, demandera une bonne planification et un peu de courage face à la fluidité routière pour remettre l'accent sur la qualité de vie et la sécurité des gens sur les trottoirs. Sans plan fort avec une vraie volonté politique derrière, le domaine publique va rester médiocre. C'est facile de faire un changement là où l'impact est négligeable...

 

Sur un ton plus général, j'aimerais aussi voir la ville commencer à voir les trottoirs comme des corridors de déplacement viables sur une plus grande distance, pas juste améliorer l'expérience dans des destinations précises. Des corridors de transit avec une grande couverture végétale, des bancs, des abreuvoirs, ce genre de choses... Pourquoi une rue sur Saint-Denis est pensée pour son transit automobile, mais qu'on ne pourrait pas penser au transit d'un piéton souhaitant marcher d'un quartier à l'autre dessus, et lui donner un trajet plus intéressant et viable? Plus les gens vont marcher dans la ville, mieux tout le monde se portera.