ville-marie Place Banque Nationale - 40 étages

[SkahHigh]

il y a 10 minutes, newyorkontario a dit :

I saw this information regarding proposed buildings on the wikipedia website:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Montreal

	Name	Height m / ft	Floors	Year	Notes
1	700 Saint-Jacques West	200 / 656	56	2022	To be announced soon.
2	750 Peel (2 towers)	180/590 & 130/426	35	2022	To be announced soon.
3	975 Lucien-L'allier	143 / 471	45	2022	Condos
4	800 Saint-Jacques West (National Bank HQ)	139 / 456	36	2022	To be announced soon.
5	650 Peel (3 towers)	120 / 393*	35	2022	To be announced soon.

1) New Broccolini residential tower (200m good); 2) CF 750 Peel (Quad Windsor) Towers (180m and 130m- better than proposed earlier); 3) Lucien L'Allier (143m ok);4)  New BNC headquarters (Only 139m- terrible.  That huge announcement about this being one of the tallest buildings since 1992 was bunk?); 5) CF 600 Peel (three (3) short 120m towers).  All to be completed by 2022?  We will see.

I'm not the only one confused.

It’s Wikipedia dude

[Philippe]

Never trust wikipedia

[Megafolie]

il y a 12 minutes, newyorkontario a dit :

4)  New BNC headquarters (Only 139m- terrible.  That huge announcement about this being one of the tallest buildings since 1992 was bunk?);

Faux. Ils n'ont pas dit que ce serait la plus haute tour construite depuis 1992, mais bien que ce serait la plus importante tour de bureaux construite au centre-ville depuis 25 ans. Pas du tout la même chose. 

https://www.bnc.ca/fr/a-propos-de-nous/nouvelles/salle-de-presse/communiques-de-presse/2018/20180123-Nouveau-siege-social-Banque-Nationale-centre-ville-Montreal.html

 

[newyorkontario]

11 minutes ago, Megafolie said:

Faux. Ils n'ont pas dit que ce serait la plus haute tour construite depuis 1992, mais bien que ce serait la plus importante tour de bureaux construite au centre-ville depuis 25 ans. Pas du tout la même chose. 

https://www.bnc.ca/fr/a-propos-de-nous/nouvelles/salle-de-presse/communiques-de-presse/2018/20180123-Nouveau-siege-social-Banque-Nationale-centre-ville-Montreal.html

 

Actually this article says that [tallest since 1992]:

http://montrealgazette.com/business/national-bank-plans-tallest-building-montreals-downtown-has-seen-in-25-years

"The 36-storey building will be the tallest office tower built in Montreal’s downtown core since the 47-storey building at 1250 René-Lévesque went up in 1992, said Claude Breton, the bank’s vice-president of public affairs."

That was not a false statement.  All the fanfare with such an announcement (tallest since 1992) appears to have been over-hyped promotion.

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[Megafolie]

il y a 4 minutes, newyorkontario a dit :

Actually this article says that:

http://montrealgazette.com/business/national-bank-plans-tallest-building-montreals-downtown-has-seen-in-25-years

"The 36-storey building will be the tallest office tower built in Montreal’s downtown core since the 47-storey building at 1250 René-Lévesque went up in 1992, said Claude Breton, the bank’s vice-president of public affairs."

That was not a false statement.  All the fanfare with such an announcement (tallest since 1992) appears to have been over-hyped promotion.

La hauteur de la tour n'a pas été annoncée encore à ce que je sache. Seul une esquisse préliminaire a montré ce chiffre. D'ailleurs une autre esquisse a aussi indiqué 200m alors je suggère de patienter et d'attendre la véritable solution que la BNC va nous annoncer d'ici quelques semaines au lieu de crier au scandale. 

[greenlobster]

Shortest 156 , tallest 198.8 ???

[Ousb]

il y a 18 minutes, greenlobster a dit :

Shortest 156 , tallest 198.8 ???

???????

[Megafolie]

Le 2018-03-26 à 16:05, greenlobster a dit :

2 propositions for BN, both remarquable,

 

il y a 33 minutes, greenlobster a dit :

Shortest 156 , tallest 198.8 ???

La première a été rejetée (celle dont les évocations apparaissent plus tôt dans ce fil), donc probablement que tu parles de l'autre proposition? 

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[yarabundi]

Il y a 6 heures, newyorkontario a dit :

I saw this information regarding proposed buildings on the wikipedia website:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Montreal

	Name	Height m / ft	Floors	Year	Notes
1	700 Saint-Jacques West	200 / 656	56	2022	To be announced soon.
2	750 Peel (2 towers)	180/590 & 130/426	35	2022	To be announced soon.
3	975 Lucien-L'allier	143 / 471	45	2022	Condos
4	800 Saint-Jacques West (National Bank HQ)	139 / 456	36	2022	To be announced soon.
5	650 Peel (3 towers)	120 / 393*	35	2022	To be announced soon.

1) New Broccolini residential tower (200m good); 2) CF 750 Peel (Quad Windsor) Towers (180m and 130m- better than proposed earlier); 3) Lucien L'Allier (143m ok);4)  New BNC headquarters (Only 139m- terrible.  That huge announcement about this being one of the tallest buildings since 1992 was bunk?); 5) CF 600 Peel (three (3) short 120m towers).  All to be completed by 2022?  We will see.

I'm not the only one confused.

Ah bien si c'est sur Wikipedia, ça doit être vrai !!!

[kool maudit]

Counterpoint: It doesn't matter. 

Montreal is out of the race so far as tall buildings go; the city's height limit means that we cannot even build a 250m tower, and that is hardly tall from a world or even continental perspective. On the other hand, so what? Is Stockholm unpleasant due to its lack of such? Hamburg? Do these cities lack for interesting buildings?

It is entirely possible to build a landmark building, a memorable and spectacular building, at 139m. It's possible at 90m, at 65m.

Even if the building was 230m, it would not vault Montreal to anything close to North American leadership in the field of skyscrapers. Buildings in places like Atlanta and Seattle would still dwarf it, to say nothing of Toronto or Chicago.

The most important thing is to gradually build out this part of town, to use it to connect the urban fabrics of downtown, the Old Port, and Griffintown in such a way that it ultimately results in central Montreal feeling nearly 30% larger, being nearly 30% larger in terms of most people's usage patterns.

The building doesn't need to be particularly tall for this. It just needs to be good.

Modifié 18 avril 2018 par kool maudit