REM: Expansion future

[nephersir7]

à l’instant, fmfranck a dit :

C'est clairement des bonnes nouvelles, mais ça commence à faire beaucoup avec l'expansion de la ligne bleue, la nouvelle ligne rose, etc. Ça sent l'électoralisme à plein nez tout ça.

Il serait grandement temps que l'ARTM arrive avec un plan.

[Djentmaster001]

From a friend of mine who worked on this project as an urban planner. He told me that they're discussing a second phase, but obviously it won't come anytime soon. 

[montrealgoalie]

I might be addicted to rem and metro expansion theories 

[Enalung]

That makes 2 of us. I wonder what kind of alignment they would choose for the A-15 corridor. Personally, I would use the existing train line and just convert it. It somewhat Bypasses Laval's city center, but it's near enough that I don't see that as a major problem. On the north shore, it's in a much more convenient location right in the middle of the developed zone. I would do away with with the U which goes from Parc station to to Lucien-L'allier and dig a new tunnel strait under Parc Avenue. By providing another direct route, It would somewhat reduce the pressure on the orange line. From Bonaventure, I would keep digging under the St-Lawrence, have a stop at the Casino and then go join the Mont-Saint-Hilaire line on the south shore. It would effectively join both line into one single line stretching from Saint-Jérome all the way to Mont-Saint-Hilaire.

Yes, I know that we are talking a very long 10km tunnel between the Park and Saint-Lambert station as well as several underground stations and the needed access shafts. (My measurement are from station to station and do not account for the tunnel having to rise back up to ground level on the south shore, so it would likely be somewhat longer than 10 km.) Yes, it would be expensive, but I beleive it is worth it.There are some gaps, but most of the corridor is heavily urbanised and there are already parking facilities, stations, and some space to work with along most of the right of way. It would make a big difference for peoples living on the south or north shore and who have to commute to Montreal, or even, all the way to the other shore. I also don't think that the REM will help much with the capacity problems on the orange line. It's just too far west for a lot of peoples.

Modifié 25 février 2018 par Enalung

[montrealgoalie]

That's very similar to one of the plans I had made, but instead it was the yellow line that was turned into a REM and went up parc then hopped onto the existing st-jerome line rails. 

There's a lot of possibilities and hopefully they're serious about the next phase of the REM, as well as finishing up with the existing plans of metro extensions. 

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mmJotHMtL-CTQy78cwBNf1V2SVRT4KVK&usp=sharing

 

This is a big mumbo jumbo map of ideas I've had. Emphasis on the yellow line REM

 

[Né entre les rapides]

Il y a 1 heure, Enalung a dit :

I also don't think that the REM will help much with the capacity problems on the orange line. It's just too far west for a lot of peoples.

If you mean REM phase one (the approved project), I fully agree.

[montrealgoalie]

I agree I don't think it will have a big impact on the orange line. It may take a little pressure off of Cote Vertu metro but that's about it.

It does absolutely nothing for the east branch of the orange line 

[Davidbourque]

Je ne sais vraiment pas qu'est-ce qui serait mieux entre l'emprise de la 15 et celle du train de Banlieue. Une chose de sur, il faut préserver la piste cyclable. Elle est énormément utilisé l'été et tout projet qui l'enlèverait passerait très difficilement.

 

Mais bon, dans l'optique d'une antenne du rem actuel, on pourrais prendre la 15 juste avant la Garre du ruisseau, suivre l'emprise de la 15 et faire des gares du coté ouest de la 15 à Laval, se rendre jusqu'à Sainte-Thérèse à l'embranchement du chemin de fer et bifurqué vers le les voies actuelle. Il me semble qu'exectpté un terminal, tout le reste appartien au RTM.

Le gros point négatif est que la capacité sera probablement limité puisqu'il faudra partager les rammes avec 3 autres branche au nord.

 

Il est probable qu'un trajet vers le centre sous parc ou autre soit encore mieux mais énormément plus dispendieux. 

[Davidbourque]

1 minute ago, montrealgoalie said:

I agree I don't think it will have a big impact on the orange line. It may take a little pressure off of Cote Vertu metro but that's about it.

It does absolutely nothing for the east branch of the orange line 

Je crois qu'il y aura un effet limité si la tarrification est harmonisé avec le métro. Je vois les gens de la Bleue a l'est de Jean-Talon éviter l'orange et se rendre au centre ville via Édouard-Montpetit. Je pense aussi qu'une très petite partit de gens débarqueront et prendront la bleue à Jean-Talon pour se rendre vers l'ouest vers des nouvelles opportunités.  Ces gens la seront probablement des nouveaux utilisateurs mais les places qu'ils laisseront seront tout de même la.

L'impact sera cependant négligible au final et probablement compensé par des gens arrivant du REM -> Bleue -> pour se rendre sur l'orange via le plateau. Est-ce la fin du monde? pas vraiment. Un autre projet comme la ligne rose fera le nécessaire pour la ligne Orange. 

[Enalung]

59 minutes ago, montrealgoalie said:

That's very similar to one of the plans I had made, but instead it was the yellow line that was turned into a REM and went up parc then hopped onto the existing st-jerome line rails. 

There's a lot of possibilities and hopefully they're serious about the next phase of the REM, as well as finishing up with the existing plans of metro extensions. 

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mmJotHMtL-CTQy78cwBNf1V2SVRT4KVK&usp=sharing

 

This is a big mumbo jumbo map of ideas I've had. Emphasis on the yellow line REM

 

I've posted a few maps on this thread. Your lane configurations are different, but for the most part, we choose the same right of way, As a side note, the last station on the orange line in Laval is pointing westward, so that line of yours is impossible.

Modifié 25 février 2018 par Enalung