montréal REM (ligne A) - Discussion générale

[franktko]

Ils semblent vouloir l'arrêter à Griffintown. Peut-être pour prévenir une surcharge ferroviaire à la gare centrale?

 

Ça ne devrait pas causer de surcharge - un est sur les rail existant et l'autre aura un nouveau couloir.

[franktko]

Hmm, ça soulève une question: ce nouveau stock de trains va pouvoir rouler sur des rails conventionnels?

[Megafolie]

Ils embarquent sur le même tracé mais ce train va continuer à la gare centrale - je ne pense même pas qu'il y aurait de connexion dans griffintown...

 

Visiblement, le REM n'empruntera pas les rails à la sortie du pont victoria pour se rendre à la gare centrale. Selon le schéma, la nouvelle ligne passera sous ou par-dessus les rails du pont Victoria et emprunterons un tracé qui semble être le même que celui de l'autoroute bonaventure, ce qui est plutôt étrange.

 

Évidemment il ne s'agit que d'un schéma "exécutif" préliminaire et non détaillé. La réalité prévoit peut-être une connexion entre les 2 qu'on ne voit pas sur les schémas présentés aujourd'hui.

[franktko]

Bien que dans leur schéma "connections", celles-ci sont représentées par des cercles blancs et il n'a rien pour Griffintown...

 

[nephersir7]

Tout le monde, écoutez l'entrevue de Richard Bergeron à Dutrizac.

 

http://www.985fm.ca/lecteur/audio/5.5-milliards-pour-un-projet-de-train-electrique-a-316812.mp3

 

 

L'annonce d'aujourd'hui n'est que la phase 1! Ils sont en train d'évaluer des possibilités pour les secteurs plus à l'est!!!

[orages lointains]

can't stop thinking about this. some further observations:

 

1) this will be good for home prices out in all the suburbs connected to the rail. if a suburban lifestyle becomes more viable, it'll keep the pressure off homes in central montreal. every little bit helps.

2) the audacity of this project is impressive and really makes the tortured discourse around the anjou and yellow line extensions seem utterly contemptible. 1.5 billion to get serve another 120,000 people? it's appalling compared with this new proposal.

3) the caisse is a major world player in rail infrastructure, with major positions in keolis, eurostar, heathrow express, canada line and others. as we know from the magnificent experience of victoria square, they're world class professionals and i feel secure trusting that this project is for real.

4) the government of quebec seems to be completely behind this project, they commissioned it and they're promoting it. that means money and also that the caisse will have a clear path forward, something unusual by canadian or american standards (some town in ontario just refused a free light rail, that is impossible in today's quebec).

5) it is absolutely crucial that the stations at edouard montpetit and mcgill be constructed - commuters or visitors coming into montreal must be able to board all three lines without transfer, montrealers going to the airport must be able to use any metro line to access the new REM, these are crucial to reduce traffic on the metro, but also to make sure that this line is financially viable. i expect both the stm and the caisse will be working hard to make this happen.

6) it seems important that the 5-6 stops in montreal be integrated into the stm system in some way so that they can be used with a monthly metro pass without additional charge. if this means that monthly passes rise a little in cost, that's fair. a 5 minute trip from UdeM to mcgill/bonaventure would completely change system use patterns, relieving pressure at transfer points system-wide. it should have been built years ago, really.

7) finally, we should recall that this is probably north america's most ambitious current rail proposal. los angeles is building massively and a company in florida is building a new high speed rail line, but for per capita impact, neither of these will do as much to transform an entire region as will this one. amazing!

[MontréalYul]

Aéroport-centre-ville en 12 minutes!? Il va y avoir des voix express qui n'arrêteront pas à chaque stations?

[crosbyshow]

can't stop thinking about this. some further observations:

 

1) this will be good for home prices out in all the suburbs connected to the rail. if a suburban lifestyle becomes more viable, it'll keep the pressure off homes in central montreal. every little bit helps.

2) the audacity of this project is impressive and really makes the tortured discourse around the anjou and yellow line extensions seem utterly contemptible. 1.5 billion to get serve another 120,000 people? it's appalling compared with this new proposal.

3) the caisse is a major world player in rail infrastructure, with major positions in keolis, eurostar, heathrow express, canada line and others. as we know from the magnificent experience of victoria square, they're world class professionals and i feel secure trusting that this project is for real.

4) the government of quebec seems to be completely behind this project, they commissioned it and they're promoting it. that means money and also that the caisse will have a clear path forward, something unusual by canadian or american standards (some town in ontario just refused a free light rail, that is impossible in today's quebec).

5) it is absolutely crucial that the stations at edouard montpetit and mcgill be constructed - commuters or visitors coming into montreal must be able to board all three lines without transfer, montrealers going to the airport must be able to use any metro line to access the new REM, these are crucial to reduce traffic on the metro, but also to make sure that this line is financially viable. i expect both the stm and the caisse will be working hard to make this happen.

6) it seems important that the 5-6 stops in montreal be integrated into the stm system in some way so that they can be used with a monthly metro pass without additional charge. if this means that monthly passes rise a little in cost, that's fair. a 5 minute trip from UdeM to mcgill/bonaventure would completely change system use patterns, relieving pressure at transfer points system-wide. it should have been built years ago, really.

7) finally, we should recall that this is probably north america's most ambitious current rail proposal. los angeles is building massively and a company in florida is building a new high speed rail line, but for per capita impact, neither of these will do as much to transform an entire region as will this one. amazing!

 

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Wow !! Great comment !

 

I agree. The possibility to connect with the 3 Metro lines is a must.

[Exposteve]

Je pense qu'ils parlent de frequence de 12 mins... le trajet sera de 25-30 mins selon les infos publiés.

[andre md]

Etudes et schema sur l'implantation de 2 gares de train ou SLR sous edouard montpetit et McGill.

Tecsult avait fait les schemas.

http://www.montrain.ca/rail/Lamarche_Frederic.pdf