ville mont-royal Royalmount

[lma13]

19 hours ago, Rocco said:

Terrible location. The type of stuff that belongs to Boisbriand. Aint gonna see me there, thats fo' sure.

I just hope I wont be working in that area anymore once its built because traffic is already terrible everyday after work. But I still like the project and will go fo sure.

[internationalx]

I do like that this part of the island is getting denser as these former light-industrial neighborhoods go residential and commercial.  There are huge residential projects planned or being built all around there - including Le Triangle - and I'd much rather have a mall like this in the center of the island of Montreal rather than Laval or the South Shore.  

[montreal67]

4 minutes ago, internationalx said:

I do like that this part of the island is getting denser as these former light-industrial neighborhoods go residential and commercial.  There are huge residential projects planned or being built all around there - including Le Triangle - and I'd much rather have a mall like this in the center of the island of Montreal rather than Laval or the South Shore.  

How about something else that is, perhaps, not a drive-to mall ? 

[mtlurb]

il y a 4 minutes, montreal67 a dit :

How about something else that is, perhaps, not a drive-to mall ? 

Like a bixi to mall? How am I bring back my shit home?

[montreal67]

2 minutes ago, mtlurb said:

Like a bixi to mall? How am I bring back my shit home?

How about not a mall then ? Sounds better to you ?

It's already a Bixi-to mall, thanks to the visionary team of Carbonleo who expect 40% of their customers to come by metro, bike or foot from de la Savane. I don't know how these people will bring their shit back home though, gotta ask them.

[Laurentia]

il y a 11 minutes, mtlurb a dit :

Like a bixi to mall? How am I bring back my shit home?

You go there, pick what you want, then go have a drink, eat, and go home, and your stuff gets delivered to your door the next day! ? THAT'S 2025! 

[ToxiK]

Il y a 2 heures, mtlurb a dit :

Like a bixi to mall? How am I bring back my shit home?

It not simply a shopping mall, it is an entertainemnt centre.  You go there, go see a movie, or eat at a restaurant, or do other fun stuff, the you take a BIXI back home (unless you're drunk, of course.  Then you need someont to drive a BIXI home for you).

[internationalx]

2 hours ago, montreal67 said:

How about something else that is, perhaps, not a drive-to mall ? 

Ok.  But Montreal developed in the post-war years around the automobile.  This part of the island, while very built-up and urban, is simply nothing like the pre-war inner city neighborhoods  closer to downtown where you can walk, and take the metro or ride a bike.  And unless you are going to start tearing down these built-up neighborhoods full of single family homes, and replace them with triplexes and apartment buildings, the car is still going to exist for a long time.  Moreover, the Metro coverage isn't exactly like the MTA in Manhattan where there is a subway station every few blocks.  No one wants to ride a bike in the winter.  

And the reality is, people still LOVE their cars, in fact, they are buying bigger vehicles crossover etc...  so yeah, a mall like this isn't so ridiculous.  At least there is a Metro station at de la Savane.   

[FrancSoisD]

Il y a 3 heures, mtlurb a dit :

Like a bixi to mall? How am I bring back my shit home?

Écoute, t'auras un sacré embarras du choix, tant du côté cocktail transport que celui du cocktail au Rmt!

• autopartage (Car2go, Communauto, Turo -- véhicules perso);
• Bixi à assitance électrique avec boîte de transport de bagages -- ça s'en vient en 2019, me semble (via les boul. Marcel-Laurin, Lachapelle, pistes cyclables de Laval -- il y en a qui me font baver d'envie car mieux aménagées que 90% des pisťes montréalaises!);
• covoiturage (AmigoExpress local, Netlift);
• taxi, TéoTaxi ou Uber (si t'avais pris quelqueS verreS);
• vélo perso, à assistance électrique ou non, avec espace cargo ou non;
• puis livraison en différé si tes achats étaient trop lourds et encombrants;
• sinon ton auto / VUS (mais comme presque chaque option, il y a des avantages et inconvénients: simplicité, confort Vs coûts annuels, congestion, faire gaffe à la boisson...)

[FrancSoisD]

il y a une heure, internationalx a dit :

No one wants to ride a bike in the winter.

This is my 23rd winter cycling, though i cycle less than before, i use my car mainly to get out of town, and i also use transit for inner island destinations, or else i walk (sometimes in the tunes of 25-50 kms per week, year-round). And i've just turned 50.

Of course, in spite of the present steady rali yearly increases in winter cycling, we're still probably no more than about 10 000 regular winter cyclists within Mtl's central boroughs. Yet, as the REV's (Réseau vélo express) protected bike lane network will get built, you'll see cyclists riding throughout the winter in droves.

This is already the case in all large Scandinavian and some German cities, plus Strasbourg. Some of those cities have a climate that's similar to ours, or even slightly harsher.

In other words, cycling is just like the induced demand on peripheral highways: "Build it, and they'll come"!