montrealgoalie

Pas si irrealiste que ca. Horizon 2050 cest un peu loin quand meme pour des idees pour lequel sont deja en discussion depuis tres longtemps Les extensions de metros sont toute de vielles idees Tramway HB, Cavendish, Cote vertu ouest, Lachine, Jean Talon Ouest, Cote des neiges, Notre Dame, etc Peut etre une couple d'idees nouvelles que je n'avais pas vu avant. Je dit GO Par contre, la ville va attendre la province et rien ne se passera.

How does it work then? You're just going to say that's not how it works and nothing else?

Ca commence a etre ridicule la, dure de defendre ca Premierement le fait qu'un systeme comme ca peut manquer de courrant, il y'a pas de redondance? Apres ca, si y'a un blackout totale, le systeme peut pas conserver assez d'energie pour ammener le train a la prochaine station? Voyons donc... C'est une chose un train coincer entre Bois Franc et Du Ruisseau, ou a Brossard, mais un train coincer sur le pont champlain au dessus du fleuve.. n'importe quoi.

Les medias cherchent toujours des professeurs random qui veulent avoir leur 5 minutes de gloire Personne veut entendre "Cest une bonne idee", du chiallage ca vends mieux

C'est exactement ca, pourquoi recherchent-ils l'acceptabilité a 100%? Les gens trouveront toujours de quoi pour chialler. Tu pourrais leur donner un metro sous terrain de Mascouche direct au centreville et ya du monde qui vont chialler et dire que ca va apporter des robineux.

"The cost? A mere $10.4 billion, which is considerably lower than the ARTM's fully underground proposal in June 2023. That project would have cost at least $36 billion." And there it is. Let's completely ignore that for 10 billion we could have gotten an actual metro that went downtown. But for a MERE 10.4 billion we'll get a tramway that doesn't go downtown. Yay! Ground level on Maurice Duplessis in RDP? I dont see how. Some parts yes but some parts are way too tight and also residential. Ground level the whole way on Lacordaire? This is going to be a disaster. There's a reason why grade separation is preferred. "According to projections, one out of six passengers (17 per cent) would opt to leave their car in favor of this new public transport mode." LOL

Seems like a case of "Look at this ridiculous 36 billion dollar project, is this what you really want?" NO, that's ridiculous! "Alright here's this 10 billion dollar project " I'm still wondering.. why is the ARTM still presenting projects. Isin't there supposed to be a new governmental division to take over these projects? What is going on with that? 10 billion for a tramway is a farce. A tramway as a means of bringing people in from the outskirts of Montreal is an absolute farce.

Check bein i vont blamer la CDPQ pour ce qui est clairement la faute a Valerie

Les medias au Quebec sont un tres grand probleme. Cet article en est un autre example. Le modele d'affaires de la CDQP est un echec? Bein oui... ya pas une planete en dehors du Quebec hein Pourtant Bloomberg aux Etats Unis nous vantent .. https://www.lapresse.ca/affaires/chroniques/2023-11-25/reseau-express-metropolitain/se-comparer-et-se-rejouir.php

They're lieing to our faces, what have they been doing since the government asked them to study it? After the REM de l'Est was cancelled. The Quebec tramway is just a recent project for them. We're supposed to believe they don't have top notch project managers analysts and engineers that didn't have any kind of planning and deliverables? They're using it as an excuse to pull out of a project they knew was going to be a giant waste of their time because of mayors and their ridiculous demands. At this point.. are they going to do the same in Quebec City? We can't cancel a project just because of whiney mayors, especially when they're virtually paying none of it. They can say the "government is taking over" all they want, but we all know what that means. And what is even happening with this new magical agency? Why did Legault replace swap Bonnardel and Guilbault? I'll never understand that cabinet change. My only ray of hope is this new agency will get the expertise from CDPQi but CDPQ will just not be investing in the projects. As well as they'll have the power they need to get these projects done, but my hopes are very low which makes me sad.

The government is not going to build any of these projects. We're in a recession (or heading into one) and they'll never accept to build outrageous underground lines in suburbs like these lunatic mayors want. So we're going to end up with overpriced tramways that are NOT going to entice people to ditch their cars. This is what happens when you try to please everyone with this "acceptabilite sociale" garbage. Valerie Plante set a precedent with how she handled the REM de l'Est. Aerial trains are seen like the antichrist, even though other big cities have no issues with it. As if Taschereau boulevard wasn't already an eye-sore and the size of a highway. I don't blame the CDPQ from not wanting to waste any more time with these clown mayors.

Quand ils ont vu que ca allait nieser encore... c'est ca qui arrive Merci Doreen!!

There definitely should be a station there. I'm happy some people are coming to their senses

Agreed, that's a very hostile parking lot especially since its close to the entrance, people are speeding through all the time and there's just a massive amount of cars at all times. Fairview parking lot makes me more nervous than even Carrefour Laval (which isin't that bad compared in my opinion) They need some kind of walkway or something maybe similar to Du Quartier station, otherwise there's going to be people getting run over by people looking for parking.

Plante dit n'importe quoi elle change d'opinion a chaque jour BTW c'est un SLR ou un Tramway?? Parceque un Tramway serait vraiment une defaite, quelle nieserie. Je pense pas que ca sera ca. C'est juste l'ARTM qui se depeche a presenter de quoi avant que la nouvelle agence du gouvernment (on sais tout que ca sera CDPQ Infra) prendra la releve.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/grand-montreal/2024-01-05/montreal-evoque-un-tramway-rue-jean-talon.php

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Oui faut faire avec ce qu'on a, par contre il ya moyen de rendre ca plus efficace. En plus je trouve que c'est plutot du cote du metro que ca fait dure. Les portes sont tres lourdes, la porte qui tourne (je sais pas comment dire ca, tourniquet?) c'est l'enfer avec des poussettes et des enfants

Le REM etait supposer avoir beaucoup de stationnement et tout les woke green du plateau ont chialler a pu finir jusqu'a ce que le nombre de places soit reduits, particulierement sur la branche west island. Beaucoup de ces chialleux etaient sur ce forum, je pense peut etre la grosse gang de losers qui se sont fait banni. Anyway je vous garantie que la tres grande diminution de places de stationnement particulierement sur la branche de west island va etre un tres gros probleme. Le transfert entre la gare centrale et bonaventure c'est deplorable, vraiment dla crotte pour n'importe qui avec de jeunes enfants en poussette, je veux meme pas imaginer les gens en chaises roulantes.

STM sous tutelle let's go Legault mets tes cullottes le gros

Its automated and no platform doors??

Tu dis vraiment n'importe quoi juste pour chialler

Je parlais des élus municipaux, c'est quoi le rapport de Legault dans ca? Il s'est montrer pro projets de transport en commun a plusieur reprises mais les maires (mairesses) voudraient que les trains soient invisibles clairement. Anyway si il est vraiment pu la dans 3 ans, bien hate de voir les Liberaux mettre un autre moratoire sur les projets de transport en commun. (Tu penses pas vraiment que le PQ reviendra au pouvoir quand meme..)

Les sommes necessaires pour ces projets sont trop gros, ca sera toujours politique.

OK faut pas trop exagerer non plus la..